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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chuck, Chuck, what's happening, my man? I'm so happy. So happy to see you.
Wow. What's going on? Joe, thank you so much, first of all. My pleasure. I feel like, you know, you are the loudspeaker of the planet, man, and I'm so honored to be here.
That's a very uncomfortable position to be in, I'll tell you that.
It's very weird. Yeah, I bet. I bet. But look, I mean, you've talked to everybody on the planet, and I think I'm honored to be your first arm wrestler.
Well, if I'm going to have an arm wrestler, it has to be the GOAT.
Oh, highly debated, highly debated, but I'll take it. You're in the conversation. Yeah, I'm in the conversation. There's a couple of us, I think. John Brzenk. How close do you follow arm wrestling? Very little.
Yeah. I follow you. I'm most fascinated by the fact that you can't extend your arm.
Yeah.
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Chapter 2: How does Devon Larratt describe the impact of injuries on his arm wrestling career?
To remove bone and scar tissue. Just chipped bones and stuff? Chipped bones. Dr. Pollack, bless his soul, at the Ottawa Hospital has extended my career till this age, you know. Yeah, that's probably one of the worst chronic conditions that arm wrestlers get is if the bone growth gets bad enough, it can start to constrict your nerves or blood flow, and that's when it becomes a problem.
Has that happened to you? 100%. Yeah? Yeah. So I was probably, it was like 2013, so like 13 years ago is when I had my first surgery. And at that point, like, trying to move forward, trying to move forward.
Pull it out as far as you can go. That's it? That's it, buddy. That's it. Wow.
Yeah.
The left is a little more than the right, it looks like.
Probably a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. And I've had two surgeries on the right, one on the left. But in my mind, you know, it's a small price to pay. You know, like, I'm as all in in arm wrestling as you can possibly be. And this is our cost of admission for some of us. Does that happen to every arm wrestler? No. No? No. There's lots of arm wrestlers. It's a style thing.
It's a genetic predisposition. I rolled the dice wrong one day and had a bad match. I think what happens is it's the pressure, it's the bones over time. And then it's if you're a dummy and keep on doing it when you should probably rest, that probably doesn't help. And I'm guilty. Most of the greats. Anyways, it doesn't affect me in the sport. I actually, I call it weaponized arthritis. Okay?
Because there are ways you can kind of make your loss of range work for you at times. Really? Yeah, because there's like, right, you know, like if you're doing an arm bar, okay, like your body resists with the ligaments and the tendons. So that starts higher for me. And I think that there's a muscular strength component that kicks in as well right at the end of the range to protect you.
So I just have a higher, you know, arm bar, you know. Does it, did it help you in arm bars as well?
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Chapter 3: What unique training methods does Devon Larratt use for arm wrestling?
It's also the bones would just snap.
Yeah, it's just going to snap higher.
Yeah, snap in bad places. Did you ever try hanging from a chin-up bar to straighten it out? No. I've tried a lot of things. I saw a video with you and Juju Mufu. Yeah. Is that how you say his name? Yeah, Juju. Juju. Juju Mufu? Yeah, Juju Mufu. Okay. John Call. Yeah, he's great. He's great. He's such a character. But they were rolling.
They were trying to do some stuff with these big metal bars to roll out your muscles. And you were in fucking agony. I was like, that is crazy to watch. You really can't straighten your arm. And when they were trying, you were screaming.
Yeah. Yeah, it's terrible. I've kind of just accepted it. Did you ever try to hang? I've tried so many things. But when I was young, when I was 20, I was wishing for the day that I could be like Crazy George. So... It's interesting, you know, like I'm not, if I was like all about straightening my arm, I could probably still do it because the bone is actually removed. Now it's a sheath.
There's like a capsule that surrounds a joint that is probably the root cause of it. What is the capsule made out of? I believe it was a fascia, just connective structure. I think it encapsulates the joint.
So everything is just sort of condensed to hold the joint together?
I think so.
Wow. Yeah. It's kind of a unique study. If you were like a physiologist or you're studying human anatomy, you would say, okay, what is possible? Yeah. Do you know about David Goggins' knees?
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Chapter 4: How has the sport of arm wrestling evolved over the years?
And the current super heavyweight world champion is LaVon. So I've never beat either of them. Yeah. It's a bit trippy. Yeah, so I started young. I love arm wrestling because it's a very safe fight. I love fighting. Everything in my life has been about fighting. And arm wrestling is one of those fight sports that has super low cost. We don't punch each other in the head. I'll be able to walk.
Nothing on my spine. My elbows don't straighten. So it's low cost. You can do it your whole life. We've had world champions in the open division who are almost 70. What? Yeah. What? Yeah, that's cool, right? That's incredible. I love it. How is that possible? Yeah. The hand is weird. This thing here is designed for volume and it just slowly builds.
The hand is, the structure has so much connective tissues in it. So much tendon and that's just it takes so long to build You know age is an advantage in a lot of ways because you just have more time to get further in arm wrestling Yeah, I'm 51. I'm telling you I probably competed at the highest level and I believe I can still go further It's non-typical, you know. It's non-typical.
And the thing that I love most about it, the very most, is the family and the bonds. Armwrestling clubs are special places. It's very blue-collar. Open doors, man. There's not a lot of money associated with the sport in terms of membership fees. We arm wrestle in each other's garages and houses and stuff. And it breeds a very tight family.
Like I consider the club that I train with, like they're my family. Like, so that's my, I mean, that's what sports all about, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And arm wrestling is very conducive to that.
So when you say it's non-typical that you could compete at this level, at this age, how old are most of the top guys?
I'd say that you hit your probably peak typically when you are low 30s. So very standard, you know? Oh, that's my buddy Porkchop. Oh, there's Crazy George. This is the guy, okay? Which one's Crazy George? The dude who's down there. Not the guy in the green shirt. So these are both my good buddies. And this is the guy who can't straighten his arms out? He can't, no. He's super locked up, okay?
So he's doing this move called a king's move, or outside top roll. And you see Porkchop's wrist is bent back? I love Porky. I train with Porky twice a week. Um... But yeah, Crazy George. And Crazy George is like 160 pounds. Really? Yeah, and Porky's like 230, completely tremendously jacked and strong. Yeah, and Porkchop is like a professional arm wrestler pulling at East versus West.
Okay, that's our highest league. And Crazy George is... That's incredible. Yeah, it's completely incredible. Another guy from our club, Matt Smith against Crazy George. I think Matt actually may have beaten him here. This is actually the time period of Crazy George's downfall. How old is Crazy George in this film? He'd probably be late 60s here. Wow.
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Chapter 5: How does Devon Larratt adapt his training as he ages?
Okay, and I was balanced, okay? I was equal. I was left-hand world champion also, okay? But as I've aged, I'm like, how can I remain at the top of the sport? I'm going to have to cut things, you know?
But why does training your left arm take away from your right arm?
I think we only have so much energy. I think there's like a finite amount of energy that we have. And if I tell my body that my energy goes here, more of it will go there and more development will happen. I don't think it's like I have this limitless amount of energy where I can be like a proportionate bodybuilder and be a world champion.
I think that to be at the very top, you need to be very specialized and very focused. That's what I believe. A lot of people criticize me for this. I get heaps of criticism, and I'm very well aware of it. Can I stop you there?
Chapter 6: What criticisms does Devon face in his arm wrestling career?
When you say heaps of criticism, by who, and is it valid? I don't think it's valid. So who's criticizing you?
I think that most of the criticism comes from more junior players. I think that most senior arm wrestlers, most guys who are on my level, they understand it. And to a certain degree, we all do it. I'm just an extreme example. But a lot of guys do it. A lot of guys do this in the sport. So there's a couple of things that lead me to this. OK, the pumpkin is just a fun metaphor.
OK, but when you get hurt in the one side, I think that a lot of people notice that somehow there's this amazing compensation that happens. Another thing is we have freaks in the sport. We have, we attract some real weirdos. Okay. A guy called Oleg Zok or Matthias Schlitti. Okay.
Chapter 7: What theories does Devon have about arm wrestling and genetics?
And these are hell boys. Real life hell boys. Okay. So they have like one arm that is crazy jacked.
I've seen this one cat. He's a small dude. Yeah. And he has one arm that's like a leg. Yeah. What is his name?
Probably Oleg. It's Oleg or Matias. They're our best examples. Oleg is better. Oleg's a world champion. What's his last name? Zok.
What a great name.
Oh, he's so cool. What a great name. Oh, that's the dude. Yeah, yeah. That's the dude. And I've fought him.
Look at the size of his fucking left arm. That is insanity.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I actually pulled this guy at the UAL many years ago and he was like 165 pounds and I was, and I was the current world champion and the kid almost beat me. Okay. Yeah.
Left-handed. Left-handed. Yeah. Jesus Christ, his arm. is insane. Isn't that awesome? That is so crazy. Yeah. He has the arm of a 300 pound man.
At 170 pounds, he was almost not even the world champion in his division.
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Chapter 8: How does Devon reflect on his military experience and its impact on his life?
He was almost the world champion in the open. Okay. Look at his left arm and it's crazy. And what's extra crazy about it is the insertion points. It's not just that he's hypertrophied and blown up. Like the insertion points are different. He's like the angles of his musculature, the development, like it's wild. And how, is that genetic? Is that built? He was born like that to a certain degree.
But his right arm looks normal. Normal. So how is it so different on his left arm? So it's my theory, okay, that he has a bit of a blood flow disorder. Okay, I believe that, so the arterial spread in the body, for most of us, is all the same. We have like an even distribution across our body. But I believe that his arterial spread is different. I think he's got a heavy arterial flow to one side.
This is just your own personal theory?
I've heard, I talked to Matthias once. Matias is another guy with this disorder. He was the one who kind of led me to believe that this is what was going on with him. And so this made me believe. that there was so much value in blood flow alone when it comes to the expression of what you are. I think anything that just gets more blood flow enhances.
The expression of the human being is largely determined by the circulation that the genetic piece receives. And I think with guys like this, it happened in utero.
That left arm is fucking crazy.
Yeah, yeah. And he got in a vicious car crash. A horrible one. Almost killed him. And he rehabbed and once again, he's the world champ again in the 85 kilo division. Completely. And he should be dead.
He broke everything like super trauma and he's still the best Yeah pieced them back together and he's still he's still the man But yeah, but what what he taught me and what other people taught me is the value and I believe it's all theories Okay, I could be wrong on everything. But I think that it's the blood flow that really it heals it strengthens and
And a lot of the thing is, is the heart isn't strong enough to feed all the structures. And that's where movement comes in. So that's why I train this way. Increased circulation.
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