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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. We don't have camera hands. We can use headphones or no, we don't need them.
Okay. Whatever you think.
We have to wear your sweet hat. I don't want to fuck it up.
There you go.
Just got it. Look, we got an American flag. We got a skull. We got camo. What the fuck else do you want? Are you American or not? Look at this. Oh, nice, dude. You're all in for 250, the 250th anniversary.
It's also the only socks I brought on this trip somehow, so I wear them every day now.
You only brought one pair or one style?
No, one pair of socks and no underwear.
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Chapter 2: What are the challenges of traveling with limited clothing?
Yeah, for sure. And D.C. So these guys are all working out outside right now. I saw a video of Amon Zahabi working out outside. And Ilya Toporia is working out outside. You know, you have to feel that heavy, heavy air. It changes things. Oh, yeah, man. I remember when I was a kid, I went to the Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs. I see those thunderstorms, dude. Oh, yeah, we're fucked.
Fuck. There is a canopy that's over the cage. They put a canopy over the cage.
Well, if lightning hits that, that's not good.
Well, if it hits the canopy, I think we're okay. I think I'm more worried about a terrorist attack than I am a fucking lightning.
Oh, that's true.
But I probably should be more worried about lightning. I actually have friends that have been hit by lightning. We do. Remy. Remy got hit by lightning. Yeah, for sure. That was full. I don't know anybody that's been hit by a terrorist attack. I almost got hit the other day. by lightning? Yeah, we had crazy storms here. Were you playing golf? No, but I was outside. Oh, thank you.
I thought the storm was over and I was out on my balcony and I was like, wow, this is cool. Oh, that's not a good spot to be. One hit. I'm 500 feet in the sky. I'm already up there. And then it hit and I started hearing sizzling near me. I'm like, holy shit. I gotta get inside. Like electricity sizzling? I was like, what the fuck is that? Where is it sizzling? Oh my god, that's so scary.
That's such a fucked up way to go. Do you ever see that one video where the guy is walking down the street and he gets hit by lightning? He wakes up, walks down the street a little bit further, he's recovering and he gets hit again. Dude got hit by lightning twice. And like, I don't know if it's time lapse or what, I don't know how long he was out for.
Because it's like one of those ring cams that catches him. This guy got fucking cooked twice.
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Chapter 3: What insights are shared about lightning and safety?
It can go sideways. So anyway, if you see that building, you should get off the top of a mountain, right? Well, me and Tanner were up there and we're still wanting to get the summit and then bomb off. Well, we're up there. And he goes, he goes, dad, he goes, watch. And he had, we had trekking poles and he had them like this.
And they're, they're like ticking, like electricity was in his trekking poles. Then we, I said, let's get the fuck off this thing. And so we bombed off and there's these kids down that were like, they said, should we go up? And I said, I'd wait a little bit. And the girl's hair was standing up.
Oh my God. Oh my God. That's so crazy. yeah it is not that yeah so they oh this guy died in florida last year in what they call blue sky lightning what yeah it can it jump from several miles away you just stand on the beach it was a blue sky above storm is yeah and i think it can go i know i looked it up after that because i was like well i need to know i'm in the mountains all the time
His death, nonetheless, serves a grim reminder that Florida led the U.S. in both lightning fatalities, 12, and strikes per square mile, 76. Holy shit. By the way, did you see that guy in Florida that he was running from the cops and he got killed by an alligator? No. Did you see that one? Uh-uh. Dude, it's body cam footage. The cops got the gun out, and he's like, stop, stop, stop.
The guy's running. He's going in the water, and all of a sudden, boom.
I'd rather get shot.
I'd rather get shot. I'd rather get shot than get killed by a fucking dinosaur.
Oh, my God.
If you get shot, the bullet's going to hurt like fuck. You're going to be in shock. You're going to realize you're bleeding out. You're going to have to say, I wish I was a better person. I'm going to miss my family. But that fucking alligator is going to take a while to kill you. It's going to roll with you. It's going to drag you under the water. You're going to realize you can't get free.
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Chapter 4: What concerns are raised about public land management?
Look how dense the housing is there. There's a mountain lion right there.
And they think a mountain lion is going to go find this bridge?
Well, they probably will eventually find the bridge. But there's a bunch of retards that will still make their way across the highway. And they're supposed to get hit. That's nature. Yeah. Figure it out. Yeah. Figure it out. Or die. Yeah, figure it out or die. There's too many of them. They're so unrealistic about their mountain lion numbers.
Yeah.
There's way too many of them. They're all over California because they don't manage them.
That's what we talked. Yeah, we talked about that last time. And it's like, I just wonder what is, you know, what's the goal? Because now, you know, I wore this shirt today because now Public Land is again back in the crosshairs. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah. What is going on? This Mike Lee guy. Yeah, that same guy. Same fucking guy. He's trying to like... That's the Utah guy, right?
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Chapter 5: How does the discussion address the implications of the roadless rule?
The Utah guy. So right now, there's this bill that was going to be introduced. It was talking about wildfires, essentially. But what he's done is he's tied in this public land piece to it. like they always do, there's always these other provisions tied into with all these bills, right? Right. And you don't really know what you're agreeing to or what you're not.
But he put in this roadless area section because there's 400 or 45 million acres of roadless area that he wants access to. Basically, they're not saying this, they're saying for some other reason. I think, oh, here's what they said. We have so many acres of roadless area that to fight wildfires, we need roads, okay? they don't care about fighting wildfires.
They care about- It's probably resource extraction.
Or development, right?
Maybe development, but development's a tough sell in a lot of those wilderness areas. But what's not a tough sell- That's what they tried with this.
Remember the affordable housing? Yeah. Like, oh, just the areas- They tried to say that's what it was. That was supposedly affordable housing, which like years ago, I went back and talked to Jason Chaffetz. He was a representative there in Utah. And I went back there and spoke to him. At that time, it was about surplus acreage. So there's 3 million surplus acres nobody's using.
Someone told me that has something to do with the Mormon religion. That the Mormon religion has a philosophy about selling land that's very different than our philosophy about public land. Somebody told me that. See if there's any reality to that, that the Mormons almost have like a mandate to try to sell land. I don't know if that makes any sense.
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Chapter 6: What are the motivations behind recent border wall contracts?
This is not my thought. Someone told me this and I was like, wait, what? And I don't think I ever looked it up.
Right. I do that, too. I'm like, I need to look that up. And I never do. And then I never know anything more. But yeah, so I went back, talked to Jason. At that time, it was surplus acreage. Then this time it was affordable housing.
Now this time is wildfire fighting, which if you get into the weeds on fighting wildfires, it's there's the National Forest Service already has $10 billion of road work they need to do on roads that are failing right now. So they're saying you're going to add more roads to the $10 billion worth of work that the roads already need maintenance on. Don't think so.
What they're going to do is... And then also, if you make roads, the stats say... 85% to 90% of fires are started within a half mile of a road. So it's not the wilderness areas that are in danger that we need to figure out how to fight fires back there. There's hardly any fires back there. It's always about the roads we've created that we can't maintain.
That's where the fires are starting, right?
Right, because it's usually people.
It's human cost. 90% of the time it's human. That's only like a small percentage of fires that can't be fought.
Here it is. Some Utah politicians who are members of the LDS Mormon Church have pushed proposals to sell or transfer federal public lands, but this is a political movement, not an official LDS church program, and other Mormon groups openly oppose it. So Utah's, see, more disinformation somebody tried to feed me. And I kind of helped spread it. Utah's heavily dominated by federal land.
42% of the state is managed by the Bureau of Land Management alone, even more under other federal agencies because so much of Utah's federal fights over whether to retain, transfer, or sell some of that land is especially intense there.
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Chapter 7: How does hunting and animal rights legislation impact ranching?
To say, hey, do you want to stop animal cruelty?
Right.
Okay. Yeah, I love animals. Well, I love animals too. Oh, he signed this. So they didn't tell you that it's making, you know, you can't fish, you can't hunt, you can't raise animals physically.
Chapter 8: What challenges do ranchers face with new animal protection laws?
Backyard chickens.
You can't raise backyard chickens for food.
Ranchers. Just like even ranchers who sell beef. You can't do it. They're making it like even the breeding of animals. Like we breed cows. We breed horses. There's stud feeds. There's different things. It makes better race, like race horses. But there's also better product for beef, right? So we control like...
when a cow goes into heat, when he gets bred, things like that, that's part of like being a rancher. Well, they wanna make that like, cause a cow didn't agree to it, it's like rape. It's like sexual assault. Like you can't control when animals breed. So that takes away ranching. There is no ranching, right? So they wanna make it to where, They're not going to make eating meat illegal.
But if people can't raise it, you're buying it from some other state at a higher price.
You're eliminating ranches in Oregon.
In Oregon, yeah. So it's killing the whole industry. Crazy. And they could say that, like, even if you hurt an animal, I don't know what, like, you could get charged with assault. So this is, they want every animal treated like your family pet or dog.
Oh. But the thing is— So if you kill a chicken for food, you go to jail.
Yeah, yeah. I was wondering, like, you know how you drive in a car and, like, sometimes a bird flies in front of you?
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