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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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I was 19 and I was smoking. My father said that to me. He goes, you know what's a good thing about you? You never smoked them down to the filter. What a good kid. And what a great family. And what a great family.
My sister smoked when we were in high school. I was always like, God, why are you smoking? It's so stupid. And then I had to do a play once with Adam Ferrara and a couple other people. And I was supposed to play this, something that a bunch of comics wrote, like a funny little sketch thing. And I was supposed to play this tortured liberal arts student that was smoking cigarettes.
So they wanted me to smoke cigarettes while I was doing it. So I smoked like 15 fucking cigarettes while we were doing it. And I threw up. I had a fucking horrible headache. Really? I was like, oh my God, I'm so high.
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Chapter 2: What experiences shaped their views on smoking?
Wow. I'm like, my arms don't move right. If you've never smoked cigarettes at all and you just smoked 15 in a row during... Were you like an athlete too?
Oh, yeah. Oh, so that totally fucked you up. Oh, completely fucked me up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, the first time I had a cigarette, it's so terrible, but I was like, this is great. Yeah. My body responded. I don't know how, like, what you had is the very normal experience.
It was just too much. One cigarette I actually liked. I was like, ooh, what a head rush. This is kind of cool. I go, now I kind of get it. I get why you guys like this. Interesting. But we were doing this thing, and I had to always be smoking. So we had a rehearse. We were doing it all day. And I wanted to try to, like, feel normal with a cigarette in my hand. So I kept smoking them.
And then I liked them. So I kept smoking them.
Yeah. It's a tough thing because the thing about, and I've been sober 15 years from alcohol and drugs. And I look at people that are really drunk. It doesn't look appealing. It doesn't look good. But when you see somebody with a cigarette, it always looks good. It looks like, ah. It always looks good. You never say to yourself, like, that person's going to lose. No, you'll get sick and die.
But you never go, they're going to lose control of their life. Right. So you look at somebody with a cigarette and you go, oh, yeah, they're having one. They're cool. It's fine. They're using it to help hang on. Yeah, and I never look cool with it. It's like you look at an actor doing it or someone at, like, the Cannes Film Festival. Sean Penn. Yeah, someone like that. Yeah.
Timothee Chalamet has one. He's the size of one. And he has one. And I go, that looks fine. Probably in France or something. You know what I mean? They all do shit like that. So you'll see that and you go.
You should get a cigarette holder to go with your sunglasses.
Yeah.
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Chapter 3: How do personal experiences influence perceptions of addiction?
Yeah. But it is one of those things that it's just such a good product. What other product could they tell you it kills you and we're raising the price? every year. How about in England, where they smoke like crazy, you have actual cancer on the fucking cartons. When you buy them, and I was in London, and you bought one, there was like a dead baby on one of them. A photo of them.
They were like low birth weight. Yeah. I was like, this is terrible. And no one cares. They smoke more over there than anywhere. They smoke more over there. They don't eat the way we eat. They don't understand the way we eat. Gluttony. They don't get it. There's something called Toby Carvery where you can just ladle on Sunday roast and Yorkshire pudding and stuff.
But for the most part, the portions are smaller and people are more behaved in that sense. But they drink more and they smoke.
This is it. European World Cup fans losing their minds over Taco Bell ranch and unlimited refills. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because they get sick. When they come here, they get sick because there's chemicals in our food. Somebody was telling me they went to Buc-ee's And the there was the soccer teams were at Bucky's for the first time and they just fucking couldn't believe it. Of course.
Imagine that's your first one of the first experiences you have in America. You walk into a Bucky's. Yeah. You're from Czechoslovakia or some shit.
It's the it's one of the most American places, as you've said, that exists. You have this gas station, but that's also like a weird theme park of food. And all kinds of other shit that you could need.
Yeah. This guy, dude, LMAO at this is a gas station. Yeah. Well, do you see how big they are? Yeah.
The first 24 million views. That's hilarious. No, it's completely alien to their culture. Yeah. To have a place like that where you could go buy the Costco's are alien to them. The idea that you could buy mayonnaise in a bucket or jars and things that you would keep like, you know, like it's all they all think we're preppers.
Because if you go to a big grocery store chain, you're buying food for a long period of time. They don't do that there. They buy stuff for the week. They have small refrigerators.
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Chapter 4: What cultural factors affect immigration perspectives?
So if you want to go on a vacation, you have to go there. You know, what's interesting is like Pasadena was where all the like producers live. Yeah. There's beautiful houses in Pasadena, man. Mid-century modern, beautiful. Yeah, incredible places, like estates that just seem completely out of place.
Totally, beautiful. Like from another time. From another time. Well, that's the thing in L.A. now, you get the vibe that your Santino made a brilliant point. He's like, it's not Hollywood, it's Hollywood the sequel. Like you're not living in the thing anymore. You're living in whatever the second version of the thing is. Right. The second version is TikToker. Yeah. Whatever it is.
It's not what it was in every place seems a little bit like a museum or like it was cool 20 years ago or 15 years ago.
Somebody recently said this and it's perfect. They said L.A. is slowly becoming Detroit. Interesting. Yeah. The only thing that might save it is the weather. Yeah. The weather will help, but the industry dried up.
So the big industry in Hollywood, regardless of whether or not it was the biggest economic industry, the biggest industry in terms of cultural value and getting people to move there was always show business. And they barely make movies anymore.
They overtaxed and overregulated their biggest industry business. to other states and other countries. And most people are making things all over the world. And very few, I think at one time it was like 80 to 90%. Now it's 25, 30% shot in LA. Wow. It's a big difference. It's a giant difference.
Well, that arrogance of like, this is the best place in the world. Everyone's going to come here no matter what. Right. That's the Gavin Newsom attitude whenever he defends California. Right. Talks about how great the GDP is. You know, we're the fifth largest economic... Yeah. He starts rattling off all these wonderful statistics.
And this is like, instead of acknowledging, we've got fucking real problems. People are moving for the first time ever more than they're coming here. We're losing all these giant corporations that are leaving. Instead of that, it's just this, we're the shit. I'm very big on California. I'm bullish on California. It's always going to be amazing here.
Well, it's what every empire said until they fell, right?
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Chapter 5: What insights are shared about Jimmy Carter's presidency?
Never enriched himself. But he was also, if you read books about him, he was kind of an operator too. Uh-huh. He was into the peanut stuff, right? He was a peanut farmer or something? Yeah. You know, he was, nobody gets to be the, yeah, he was sweeter. Sweetest. Sweetest. Sweetest.
One of the sweetest of all the presidents.
Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to UFOs and government secrecy?
He was still the president. But so who is doing this? It's just the men and black people from the depths of Raven Rock or Cheyenne military or wherever the hell they are.
What they could be doing is covering up years of lying to Congress and misappropriation of funds for all these black ops programs and the way they can get out of jail. Because if they go and tell the government, oh yeah, by the way, we lied to Congress for 50 years. There's no solid verifiable evidence that Jimmy Carter cried. Of course there's no solid evidence. Jamie, stop being a narc.
He's a narc. He's a narc.
It's out of control.
The Carter cried of a UFO story is based on second or third hand anecdotes Those are my favorite and is not confirmed by Carter himself or primary official sources. I think it's true I think it's true About his 1969 sighting Carter described seeing a strange light, but did not mention crying or being emotionally shattered by it Yeah, but I don't think that's what they're saying.
They're saying he was emotionally shattered by the disclosure and
And then you've got to live with that knowledge. So he's just got to go around now.
Richard Dolan, who is by far one of the best guys to read about UFOs and UAPs. Very balanced guy and very evidence-based guy. He includes a lot of crazy stories, but he never goes along with them. But Richard Dolan's really good. He's got a bunch of books. So I don't know if it's true. Is the Jake Barber guy real?
He's the guy that said that he actually had to move a UFO, right, with a helicopter? Yes. I haven't talked to him.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of the recent UFO sightings?
These UFO guys, it's all three or four out.
Like, it's not— Well, Jesse Michaels does a lot of very in-depth ones with these guys. Yeah. But the good thing about that is if someone's, like, really full of shit, after a couple of hours, you kind of say— You see tendencies that maybe they exaggerate or they make things up or they leave stuff out or whatever it is. But something's going on, right?
There's something that people keep seeing. There's enough radar information. There's enough video that doesn't make any sense. We never found out what those drones were.
Remember that? They're all around the bases in New Jersey and stuff like that.
Yeah, it was crazy. I mean, people were scared to fly.
People say it's a domestic. It was domestic. It was us. That's what I've heard. But then, you know, who knows?
Could be China flexing and pulling their dick out. Right.
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Chapter 8: How do societal changes influence the perception of culture and politics?
Check out what we have, motherfuckers. Who knows? Who knows? But there was a lot of things that those things were doing that we don't know that they can do. One of the things, like, they were flying for hours at a time. And so what's the fuel source? Because it's not batteries. Downed U.S. pilot reported seeing Iranian drones swarm in jellyfish formation. Whoa.
Well, they're probably getting drones from, you know, who knows, China. China, Russia. Of course. So the highest end of high end government drones that we don't know about, who knows what those fucking things can do?
Multiple drones interconnected and moving as one with smaller drones below the bigger drones like legs One of the sources familiar with the pilots witness account told CNN real alien shit Another source told CNN the pilot described witnessing a minefield of drones in the air. Holy shit. When did this happen?
13 hours ago this was posted.
So 13 hours ago this F-15 got down?
I mean, he's talking and they're reporting it.
Bro, how nuts is that? They got taken out by alien drones in April. Whoa. So he ejected from the aircraft the Iranian drones hovering in the air, moving as one in a formation that resembled a jellyfish. Fuck, dude.
Yeah. I mean, so there is a there is a chance that it is our it's DARPA and it's all of these countries that are, you know, you have these black projects. They have these secret defense projects and they're saying it's extraterrestrial.
I think if I was running an undercover operation for as many years as these people probably have been doing, and what Eric Weinstein thinks, he thinks it's like a separate branch of physics. He thinks there's a bunch of physicists. So where do they get?
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