499. The Jesus Revolution: The Real Thing | Greg Laurie

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What is the story behind the Jesus Revolution?

Jordan Peterson 0:31
where I came to know about him. And so I reached out to Mr. Lorry to find out more about the underlying story. So he started a ministry as a reluctant convert, let's say in the hangover decade of the 1970s, ministering to disaffected young people and himself in a manner that had quite a revolutionary impact. He started with a very small church of about 30 people and grew that into a massive organization in a short time, which meant that he hit the target squarely in some relatively mysterious manner. And so I wanted to find out how he did that. I wanted to hear the background story. And so we talked about the development of his interest in the religious which had made itself manifest in a variety of ways including some experimentation with hallucinogens. We talked about his fragmented family background that probably partly gave him the craving for something authoritative and genuine. We talked about the the state of the world of youth in the 1970s after the hedonistic utopianism of the 1960s had collapsed. We talked about the
Jordan Peterson 1:48
meaning of the story of Abraham, which is a archetypal story of individual development and the emergence of the spirit of the benevolent father in that story and the parallels between that and his own life and his own quest and his own ministry. And then we talked about the broader significance of the longing for a grounding meaning that characterized the 1970s and that also characterizes young people, especially young men, but not only young men now. And so we weaved that all together quite successfully. And that's what you're in store for if you participate in this podcast. So I think, Mr. Lurie, I think we'll talk today. Yes, call me Greg, it's good. Greg is good. I think we'll start today with this description, a discussion of a recent New York Times article. And you know something's going on in the religious side of the world if the New York Times deigns to report on it.
Greg Laurie 2:51
Mm-hmm.
Jordan Peterson 2:52
They're reporting something that I've been tracking for a couple of years, which is the return of young men to churches, particularly more traditional, not only, but particularly more traditional churches. But I'm wondering, well, first of all, I guess I'm wondering what you think about that. Is this something that you've seen, again, accelerating more recently? And what you think might be accounting for it?
Greg Laurie 3:19
Hmm. You know, it seems to me that this young generation, so many of them raised in broken homes and often fatherless homes, which really is at the root of so many social ills. I'm sure you know a lot more about this than I do, but I've done a little research on it and you can almost trace everything in culture from people getting into crime, drug use, girls getting pregnant outside of wedlock, to broken homes, specifically the lack of a father. So I think one of the reasons that you have connected with younger people, and especially younger men, is you're a father figure. And they're looking for an authoritative voice. And I think sometimes parents are trying to be a friend to their children when they need to be parents to their children. And so I think that there's something about coming to a church and hearing someone say without apology, here's the Bible, here's truth, here's what God says, and here's the way that you should live. And I think that there's an appeal to that that is just lacking in our culture.
Greg Laurie 4:25
You know, we push so hard against these values and against these absolutes that there is, you know, a reaction. There's always an action and a reaction. So my generation, You know, the baby boomers were the children of the people that came out of World War II, you know, building families, rebuilding America. And so many of us maybe didn't get the affirmation or attention we thought we should get. So maybe we overindulged our children. Then there's a reaction to that. And it just goes on from generation to generation. But I think this is a generation that to me, having lived through a few decades, is in many ways parallel to my youth generation. I see more of a connection between the late 60s and the early 70s and today than they do in any other decade.

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