The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
531. Irreversible Damage at Fourteen | Detransitioner Clementine Breen
20 Mar 2025
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Clementine Breen, a child who was moved through the transgender pipeline and has since de-transitioned. Together they walk through her story (from early sexual abuse to the daunting decision to undergo affirming surgery), the confusion and fallout thereafter, reorientation, and her lawsuit against the doctor who led her astray. Clementine Breen is a de-transitioner who experienced early sexual abuse before having her gender dysphoria misdiagnosed as being transgender. Top surgery was sold to her at age 13, all the while her parents were told the atrocious “dead daughter or living son” lie. She is currently embroiled in a landmark lawsuit against her former doctor, Dr. Olson Kennedy. This episode was filmed on January 1st, 2025. | Links | For Clementine Breen: On X https://x.com/clementine_fb Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Did you tell them about the abuse? I did not. Well, how much investigation into your history took place? Very little, because the second we got into my history, it just came crumbling down. In my referral, it says that I had held a male identity since childhood. Besides just physical discomfort with my body and just feeling disconnected from girls, it was really no sign of prior gender dysphoria.
Discomfort with your body and feeling disconnected with girls, that's called puberty.
Right. I was already cleared for surgery, so I traveled to San Francisco. Recommendation of Olson, the specific doctor.
By the time I was there... Why the specific doctor?
Because he doesn't have age limits. No age limits. Yeah. What's interesting about my case too is even in my referral notes, which the surgeon saw, there's conflicting information. So immediately you can tell it's sort of rubber stamped and they didn't really look through it.
So now you wake up after surgery.
Yeah.
What's that like?
Yeah.
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