543. “You’re Not Gaining Weight Because You’re Lazy” | Dr. Mehmet Oz
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What are the key issues in America's food environment?
If you gave America the knowledge that they could use to improve themselves, to feel confident that they had jurisdiction over their own body, to actually play an active role in ensuring that they don't develop those chronic illnesses, that they'll do it. If people don't think they matter, then they don't show up in their own lives. There's no uniting narrative, there's no union. It's a completely pathological claim because we live in a hierarchy of narratives that stretch in principle up to the ultimate pinnacle. There's that, then there's the fact too that now we're all connected. so things can spread much faster. It's certainly possible that oversimplified, easily understandable pathological ideas like viruses spread the most rapidly.
Hello, everybody. I had the opportunity to sit down with Dr. Mehmet Oz
Dr. Oz was an early advocate for me, a fair early advocate for me back as early as 2018, which made him unique in that regard on the legacy media side. And since then, we've had a number of public discussions and a much broader, a much larger number of private discussions. And that's been very good as far as I'm concerned. He's a very remarkable person, full of ideas. exceptional level of energy and doing his best to aim upward as far as I can tell and quite effectively so and so it was a pleasure to have him today in Scottsdale where he is with his wife and what did we talk about? Well We talked about the changing media environment and why that's occurred, the shift from legacy media to online media, and also the corruption of the legacy media enterprise over about a 10-year period, something that he got wind of as early, let's say, as 2012. And we tried to puzzle out why that was occurring, and that brought us into a broader discussion of
while corruption on the scientific and academic front, which is a manifestation of the same set of symptoms in a different area. And we talked about the radical changes on the political side with regards particularly to the Make America Healthy Again movement, which is a twist in the Trump approach that certainly meets with Dr. Oz's approval because he's been working for years on the public health side and is... pleased, I would say, or more than pleased, to see this become a central issue of public concern, as it should be, given the unbelievable cost and consequences of the chronic disease epidemic that does immediately confront us. We discussed all of that. We also discussed as well his foray into the political realm, the price he paid for that personally, the advantages of that, and his plans for the future, which involve continuing to develop what is already a sizable social media, new media presence, which is expanding and that he's hitting with all his customary diligence. So stay tuned for that. Well, Dr. Oz, it's good to see you again.
As always. We haven't done anything publicly since 2021? Before I decided to run for office. That was the last time we taped, and you were the last big interview I did. Oh, is that right? It was very helpful. That'll teach you to interview me. Career-ending move. You got me psyched up to go. You said, tell the truth and go out there and do battle. Well, it was actually a weird situation at that time because three years ago, There still was very, very few people, let's say, on the classic legacy media side who would do an interview with me. And you were certainly one of the, because we had done something earlier than that, too. Two years before that, maybe? It was earlier, I think 2017 or so. It was 18, that early time period. I say that because when we first decided to invite you, I had an intense battle within the show with people threatening to quit. Did they quit? I'll tell you the story very briefly, but it's a wonderful reflection of what I think is the ultimate hypocrisy that happens often, certainly within media. Folks wanted to quit. It was performative in general.
They wanted to show that they were going to be taking a strong stance against you. And the reasons were obvious. I know all the accolades they could throw at you. And So I challenged the team. I said, well, show me those evidence because if he's truly those things, I don't want to have him on. I'd never met you before. I had listened to you.
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