The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
551. An Honest Take on the Looming Energy Crisis | Scott Tinker
29 May 2025
Is our planet doomed? Probably not, it turns out. Dr. Jordan B. Peterson joins geologist Scott Tinker to dismantle the myth of energy scarcity, exposing the flawed narratives that demonize coal, oil, and natural gas. Together, they reject the false binary of renewables versus fossil fuels, arguing instead for an abundant future powered by both. This conversation confronts the culture of fear that paralyzes progress and issues a stark warning: if the West continues to undermine its own energy and technological ambitions in service of an ideological green agenda, it risks ceding global leadership to authoritarian regimes like China. Innovation, prosperity, and freedom depend on confronting reality—not retreating from it. Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy This episode was filmed on May 23rd, 2025. | Links | For Scott Tinker: Watch Scott’s speech at the 2025 ARC Conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7EjhVyCHgA Switch On (Film) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk75bD-C3H4 Switch Energy Alliance https://switchon.org/about/leadership/ Watch Energy Switch (Show) https://www.pbs.org/show/energy-switch/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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If you're concerned about people who are struggling, as far as I can tell, there's nothing more important than energy.
There's a great experiment going on right now as we've put more intermittent energy, led by solar and wind, onto grids. How much can you push that? When that sun or wind go away, something has to be there immediately to back that up. to make it continue to work. And it's brutal managing a grid that has things coming and going.
The most appropriate way to serve the poor is to make energy radically available reliably, period.
If you want to clean up the atmosphere emissions, as well as the land, the air and the water, you have to accelerate economic development.
If this is all true, then why the hell aren't we doing it?
We're not out of energy options, we're out of ideas. Thank you.
So I had the opportunity today to speak with Scott Tinker, and I've spoken to Scott before and on a podcast, and he was a contributing speaker at ARC and delivered one of the most popular public speeches that we've ever put on the ARC platform on energy and the environment. Why should you listen to this podcast? Well, there's a bunch of reasons.
The most practical is that Scott will walk you through what you need to know to basically have a schematic understanding of the structures upon which your abundant world depends, the energy infrastructure. And he'll tell you a story that you won't hear from other sources, and it's accurate.
And you need to know these things because knowing them helps you understand what opportunities the future holds. And so much of what we're told about the future is transmitted to us by people who... ratchet their way to power by terrifying and compelling the population. And that's the sign of a kind of tyranny.
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