572. Navigating Education, Ideology, and Children | Answer the Call

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Unknown 0:00
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson 0:30
Is it education or is it child warehousing? The answer is mostly it's child warehousing. I think that the K through twelve education system has become is it irredeemably corrupt? Likely
Unknown 0:47
How do I raise my children with strong critical thinking and moral clarity in a cultural environment where awokeness pretty much became cultural hegemony? Most of the time people
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson 0:59
People who are educating have no idea. They have no idea what literature is for. You're not gonna be able to motivate and teach people if that's how shallow your knowledge is. What you're doing as a teacher often is setting the motivational frame and dramatizing. This grips me, this is important, it's vital, here's why. That's the world manifesting itself in accordance with your interest.
Michaela Peterson 1:30
Hey, it's Michaela, and I'm back with my dad for Answer the Call, where we take live questions from you guys. And dad mainly answers them, but I'll pipe in from time to time. Today we're talking about a topic that should matter to everyone. How do we navigate the modern education system? So this should be spicy. Up first we have Joshua in Florida.
Unknown 1:52
Hey Joshua. Hi, good to talk to you guys, both of you. We have been homeschooling our older son since twenty twenty.

What is the central critique of the K‑12 education system?

Unknown 1:59
He's almost ten now. I'm super happy with the results, but I'm kind of biased and very close to it. And I was wondering if you could perhaps steel man the case of sending Sending him to a traditional style school, maybe now, maybe when he's older. Um Just so I'm can be more honestly doing the cost benefit analysis, it's not about me, it's about him.
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson 2:24
Well, you are already, at least to some degree, considering him in the equation, because you said that he's an avid you implied that he was an avid and and satisfied participant in what is happening. And so that's a certain amount of objective evidence, let let's say assuming that you have other observers who agree and that might be your wife. What I would wonder immediately is Does he ha have peers and friends and is he participating in anything that's part of the broader social contract outside the family. Well exactly, exactly. And like the only potential benefit to him going into the dismal school system is that he meets people his own age, he starts to socialize with his peers, and you can assess whether he can conduct himself in the broader social world.
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson 3:22
Like your role as a parent, right from the beginning, is to Help your child, encourage your child to become maximally socially desirable. And I don't mean obsessed with popularity, I mean the sort of person that other people rely on and open doors to. And your concern, which is valid, is that because you're so close to the situation and you're his father and you enjoy what you're doing, which I think would be a good thing. Is that You might be biased in your evaluation of his progress. Well, the way to test that is to see how he does in the broader world with his peers, with other adults, with with social organizations that you have no part of. He could get that with sports, he could get that with clubs, he could get that with a friendship group.
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson 4:13
Like there's lots of social organizations that aren't the school. He could get that with church. So the first question I'd have for you is how do you think he's doing socially?
Unknown 4:25
Uh he's doing well, uh, but the only problem with that is it means that it's like a full-time job for me to make sure that he's got access to a co-op and to temple and to the chess club and different camps over the summer. But that's fine. It's it's my job. Um I do want to get out of the business of being in the middle of setting up everything and encouraging him too much because You know, he's almost ten.

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