Assad fled, rebels took over, and Syria changed overnight. Intelligence analyst Ryan McBeth maps out who won, who lost, and what's next on Out of the Loop! Welcome to what we're calling our "Out of the Loop" episodes, where we dig a little deeper into fascinating current events that may only register as a blip on the media's news cycle and have conversations with the people who find themselves immersed in them. On This Episode of Out of the Loop: After over a decade of civil war, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad fled to Moscow when his regime collapsed following a rapid 10-day offensive at the end of 2024. The collapse was accelerated by Hezbollah withdrawing forces to fight Israel, leaving Assad's already weak army severely undermanned. The new controlling force in Syria is HTS (Hayat Tahrir al-Sham), led by Hamed al-Golani. While HTS was formerly affiliated with Al-Qaeda, they have since distanced themselves and are showing potentially moderate tendencies, focusing on restoring basic services rather than implementing strict religious law. Turkey emerged as a major winner in this scenario, having strategically supported various rebel groups that helped bring down Assad's regime. Meanwhile, Russia and Iran are significant losers - Russia lost important Mediterranean naval access, and Iran lost a crucial supply route to Hezbollah in Lebanon. The Syrian civil war involved over 70 different factions, but they could be broadly categorized into three main anti-Assad groups: Islamist groups (like HTS), Kurdish groups (supported by the US), and moderate opposition groups. This complex web of alliances and conflicts made the situation particularly difficult to resolve. Despite the country's painful history, Syria has immense potential for rebuilding and renewal. The country was historically known for its rich culture, welcoming people, incredible food, and archaeological treasures. The current focus on restoring basic services and apparent willingness of different factions to cooperate suggests that with proper support and governance, Syria could begin healing and rebuilding its vibrant society. Connect with Jordan on Twitter, on Instagram, and on YouTube. If you have something you'd like us to tackle here on an Out of the Loop episode, drop Jordan a line at [email protected] and let him know! Connect with Ryan McBeth at his website, Twitter, Instagram, and on YouTube. If you'd like to stay on top of what's happening in the world, subscribe to Ryan's Substack! Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1099 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: What happened to Bashar al-Assad and his regime?
One of the reasons why you see armies collapse slowly and then really fast is that the average unit needs resupply every 36 hours or so. So who are the first soldiers who are going to leave? They're going to be the supply people. They're in the rear. They have access to things like radio or Internet or cell phone service. They have a way to charge their stuff.
If you're in a foxhole, you probably don't have a way to charge your cell phone. And so these guys start hearing like, hey, HTS is attacking. And they start thinking like, you know what? I'm done. And so they leave. And then the guys at the front line, they haven't been resupplied in 36 hours. 36 hours turns into 40 hours and that turns into 48 hours. And now they go, you know what?
We haven't eaten in two days. I'm leaving to go find food. And so that doesn't create a very defensible position, right? When people start leaving because they're looking for food. And as it just so happens, what is Aleppo the intersection of? Highway 4 and Highway 5. So now you have a straight shot down that highway right toward Damascus.
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Yeah, that's a fair comparison. Aleppo was a manufacturing hub, intellectual hub.
Yes, you could say that. OK, so they capture this big city, this main city, the main city that's not the capital. And then they decide, let's roll to see the government, because if that's how they defended Aleppo, maybe Damascus, we can at least encircle it. And I think that was their initial plan. And it looks like since everybody just cut and ran, they just kept moving.
Absolutely correct. They just kept moving. Took them about 10 days to finally secure the capital. Jeez, that is nuts.
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Chapter 3: How did Turkey influence the Syrian civil war?
And so he put a bag over his head. You could take him to Guantanamo, but as soon as you do that, they have rights. But if you take him to a Syrian prison, those guys will do anything to get a confession or intel out of those guys.
Oh, that's, I want to be clear. If that's protecting us from terrorism, fine. But it sounds pretty terrible and possibly like one of those things that we're going to find out later was just a big mess and tons of innocent people got tortured to death in Syria.
In Syria, there is no such thing as a nice Syrian prison. In fact, when the revolution, now we're skipping ahead a couple of years, but when this 10-day offensive happened that resulted in the fall of Syria, there were people who believed that some of Assad's prisons actually had secret rooms inside of them where prisoners were super duper locked away.
And they actually brought in the White Helmets, which was an organization that that would help people out in Aleppo who had been trapped under rubble. They brought those guys in to try to search the prison for secret entrances where there might be secret prisons inside.
And you can just imagine if this was the case, I don't believe they actually found any secret areas of these prisons, but you can just imagine dying from hunger or thirst in a free Syria.
Oh, that's awful. Yeah, hopefully they don't find that stuff in five years. Hey, there were 300 people down here. We had no idea. You know who won't slaughter your whole family? The fine products and services that support this show. We'll be right back. If you're wondering how I managed to book all these great authors, thinkers, and creators every single week, it's because of my network.
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They went into, what is it, Sednaya, it's called, prison, and there were kids in there that had been born in there, probably because their mothers got s*** by the guards. It is so gross on so many levels, and they showed the footage, and it's like people lived in there for how long? And it looks like a dirty... shower and that's the whole room, and you just sleep on the floor in the dark.
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Chapter 8: How have the dynamics of power shifted in Syria recently?
I heard about that from the Iraq War. Is that the same Ba'ath Party that was Saddam Hussein?
Yeah, it's a splinter of the Ba'ath Party.
Okay.
The Ba'ath Party is kind of like this communist or really more like a socialist Arab awakening organization. So there is a Ba'ath Party in Syria. There's a Ba'ath Party in Iraq. You could say it's two branches of the same ideals. What's really interesting is that Bashar al-Assad, when he became president, it was after his father died, which was in June of 2000. And there was a slight problem.
Their constitution, the Syrian constitution, said you can only become president if you're 40 years of age or older. So the legislature lowered the age for serving as president from 40 to 34, which just happened to be Bashar's age.
Oh, that's a fortunate coincidence for him. Otherwise, he would have been ineligible. Yeah.
Imagine that. And he became president in July of 2000 with 97% of the vote. Wow.
Wow. He was so popular. That's the thing with these dictators. They are just insanely popular. Lukashenko was like 90 plus for 80% of the vote. These guys, man, the mandate is really strong, unless there's some f***ery, in which case all bets are off. But otherwise, the mandate, man, it's a clear majority. Okay, so... All jokes aside, isn't al in Arabic the or of? Yes. Okay. Yes, absolutely.
Technically al-Asad means the lion. Asad is lion. I see. So this is not like the city where they're from. This is the name they've given themselves to sound tough.
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