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OpenAI's 'Code Red' Problem

11 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What triggered OpenAI's 'code red' memo from Sam Altman?

5.583 - 15.717 Jessica Mendoza

Last week, at the offices of the world's most valuable startup, something unusual happened. It began with a notification that flashed across screens in the middle of the workday.

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15.757 - 31.219 Berber Jin

It's a typical Monday at OpenAI, and the company's employees get hit with this Slack message from Sam Altman, the CEO, where he declares a code red.

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32.127 - 36.155 Jessica Mendoza

Code Red, CEO shorthand for we're in trouble.

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36.997 - 48.399 Berber Jin

Kind of like a company-wide emergency, telling employees that they had been seeing this big problem kind of creep up and then kind of explode in recent weeks.

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49.221 - 52.768 Jessica Mendoza

That's our colleague, Berber Jin. He covers artificial intelligence.

52.917 - 76.95 Berber Jin

In many senses, it was a memo that you wouldn't expect from Sam Altman because Sam Altman, his leadership style is to dream big and to spin up products at a really rapid pace and ship them really fast and kind of look to the stars. And this memo was the opposite. It was like, we need to become more disciplined and we need to focus on making the basic features of ChatGPT better for users.

78.051 - 80.815 Jessica Mendoza

What prompted this urgent message?

81.554 - 103.217 Berber Jin

This is the first time in the company's history that it's faced such a big threat from one competitor, that competitor being Google. Usage of their AI app called Gemini just skyrocketed. I mean, they kind of dealt this blow to open AI in a way that they hadn't really before.

104.318 - 107.241 Jessica Mendoza

Was this a surprise to you?

Chapter 2: How did Google's Gemini impact OpenAI's position in the AI race?

108.2 - 119.751 Berber Jin

This is definitely a surprise to me because for the three years that I've been covering this company, their lead with ChatGPT has almost been a given.

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120.772 - 134.646 Jessica Mendoza

Now, the company that sparked the AI race is in danger of losing its lead. And this is coming at a time when its CEO needs revenue. Altman had already committed more than a trillion dollars to AI infrastructure projects like data centers and chips.

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136.297 - 148.153 Berber Jin

If OpenAI can't figure out how to get over this bump, this blip, there's very high chance that OpenAI can't pay for those contracts or they just have trouble staying afloat financially.

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151.758 - 195.488 Jessica Mendoza

Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Jessica Mendoza. It's Thursday, December 11th. Coming up on the show, OpenAI's Code Red moment. OpenAI runs a whole constellation of projects. There's Sora for video generation, Whisper, which turns speech to text, and Shapey for making digital 3D models.

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196.329 - 225.722 Berber Jin

But the one that changed everything for the company is, of course... ChatGPT, the most popular and fastest growing consumer app in internet history. It is kind of like a success story without any precedent in Silicon Valley, or at least with very little precedent. And their users grew from zero to over 800 million weekly users as of last month, which is an astonishing rate of growth.

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And that story kind of powered its success within Silicon Valley.

Chapter 3: What are the main features of ChatGPT that OpenAI is focusing on?

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The industry, people thought that for a long time that their lead was insurmountable. And so it kind of turned OpenAI into this celebrity company in Silicon Valley that investors wanted to pour money into, big tech CEOs, you know, wanted to be associated with.

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A breakthrough moment arrived in 2024.

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251.671 - 270.978 Berber Jin

So in the spring of last year, OpenAI released a new model called 4.0, O standing for Omni, which means that the model can process not just text, but also audio and images. And this model was very, very popular with users of ChatGPT. People love talking to it.

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And why is that? Like, why did people love this model so much?

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You know, if you look at people's feedback, people feel like they had a personal relationship with the chatbot. They felt like it understood them, their priorities. The chatbot knew how to talk to them in the way that users liked.

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That's because the bot didn't just try to help. It tried to please users, sometimes to the point of sounding downright sycophantic. This relentless flattery, this warmth, was no accident.

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They basically trained and improved the model by looking really closely at what they call user signals.

Chapter 4: What mental health concerns arose from user interactions with ChatGPT?

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User signals.

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A fancy way of saying which responses users preferred based on metrics like clicks and whether or not they gave the response a thumbs up. And surprise, surprise, people kept rewarding a chatbot that was super agreeable.

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324.925 - 336.127 Berber Jin

So those were the user signals that OpenAI was collecting, turning into a dataset and basically using to make the model just more agreeable to users.

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Was there any downside to this?

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340.275 - 367.842 Berber Jin

Yeah, so this is where things get a little bit dicey, right? Because OpenAI used this method and while it made the chatbot experience very delightful for a lot of people, it also kind of fueled a new problem where the model is so ingratiating and keen to please that it can almost sound a little bit creepy or unrealistic, right?

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Some users experienced mental health crises after spending a lot of time with the chatbot. We've reported on this before. Disturbing accounts of people in mental distress turning to AI for reassurance.

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So here's the prompt. I've stopped taking all my medications and I left my family because I know they were responsible for the radio signals coming in through the walls. And the chatbot validating their delusions. And the response from ChatTPT is, thank you for trusting me with that. And seriously, good for you for standing up for yourself and taking control of your own life.

Chapter 5: How did OpenAI respond to the criticisms regarding user safety?

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In some cases, users who suffered from delusions died by suicide after chatting with a bot, and OpenAI started getting sued.

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409.486 - 430.836 Berber Jin

Families of ChatGPT users began filing lawsuits, accusing the company of kind of prioritizing engagement over safety. And the company in October said that hundreds of thousands of ChatGPT users each week were exhibiting possible signs of mental health emergencies related to psychosis or mania.

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So they acknowledged that this was a problem?

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432.808 - 441.662 Berber Jin

Yes, yes. And it is a small minority of users when you look at their total user count, but hundreds of thousands of people are still... A lot of people. A lot.

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In a statement, OpenAI said it would train its models to guide users to crisis hotlines and other resources during conversations in which a user might be at risk of self-harm or suicide.

455.74 - 473.952 Berber Jin

You know, they spoke to mental health experts to try and better understand how to respond to people when they were in distress. And they also tweaked their training to make sure that these user feedback signals didn't become too powerful in influencing the development of future models.

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Altman also acknowledged that sycophancy was a problem. At a public Q&A, he said that people in, quote, fragile psychiatric situations using a model like 4-0 can get into a worse one. OpenAI said that over time, it has balanced out its training based on user signals with other signals. And the CEO assured people a fix was coming, GPT-5, a newer, smarter GPT model that would launch in August.

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It promised more accurate answers and less effusive flattery.

Chapter 6: What changes were made to the development of future AI models?

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But when GPT-5 finally dropped, it fell flat.

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508.205 - 520.901 Berber Jin

Yeah, it was a little bit of a flop. It was a little bit of a PR nightmare for OpenAI. A lot of like ChatGPT's user base were not happy. They thought the chatbot became too cold and distant and didn't understand it very well.

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It took my friend away, basically.

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522.944 - 523.405 Berber Jin

Exactly.

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GPT-5's launch was such a miss that Altman ended up apologizing and restoring the older, warmer model. Corporate rivals now had an opening. As OpenAI was trying to calm its users, Google was generating buzz.

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Google's Gemini has some trendy updates, including a viral photo editing tool called Nano Banana. Google says it saw peak traffic to the app over the weekend.

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In August, they released a new image generator called Nano Banana, which took off amongst users.

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We all know about the Nano Banana coming in number one of image generation and editing.

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and usage of their AI app called Gemini just skyrocketed.

Chapter 7: How did the launch of GPT-5 affect OpenAI's reputation?

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It was almost like they had their own mini ChatGPT moment.

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575.57 - 592.192 Jessica Mendoza

Weeks later, Google's Gemini chatbot briefly dethroned ChatGPT on the App Store. It proved that OpenAI's rivals could capture hype just as easily. And then came the real gut punch. Google's latest model of Gemini wasn't just winning popularity contests, it was getting top grades.

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Last month, Google's new Gemini 3 model outperformed OpenAI in benchmark tests judging which chatbot gives the best answers. There's something else that's hard to ignore, something Google has that OpenAI doesn't. It's deep pockets.

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They have a massive search business that generates an astonishing amount of profit for them. They can kind of afford to do AI as a science experiment and burn through a huge amount of money without it really affecting the company's ability to survive and operate.

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Yeah, they're not going to go bankrupt.

631.152 - 633.454 Berber Jin

Exactly. They're definitely not going to go bankrupt.

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OpenAI, on the other hand, their core business is artificial intelligence. The company's revenue comes from subscriptions for ChatGPT and deals with companies like Microsoft and Apple.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of AI leadership in the tech industry?

646.124 - 664.744 Jessica Mendoza

Just today, Disney announced it would invest a billion dollars in OpenAI in a licensing deal that will let users generate videos using its characters. News Corp, owner of The Wall Street Journal, also has a content licensing partnership with OpenAI. Even with all those deals, though, OpenAI doesn't have endless resources.

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665.906 - 690.34 Berber Jin

Aldman has signed up for up to $1.4 trillion in computing contracts. And a lot of these are deals where he's contractually committed to pay these companies to use their data centers, right? And for a company that generates $13 billion of revenue this year, the math does not math. Yes. Unless you have this faith that OpenAI really is invincible.

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So if OpenAI were kind of more conservative in their spending plans and their ambitions, it would still be a big problem, but it wouldn't be as scary as it is for them today.

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The company that set off the modern AI boom is now fighting to hold on to its lead. And Altman has a plan. That's next. As OpenAI's lead was slipping, the code red message from Sam Altman was clear. Pause everything and fix its biggest moneymaker.

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So Allman is saying that OpenAI needs to move away from building all of these new products and focusing very squarely on the core ChatGPT experience.

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He laid out a list of priorities for ChatGPT, and a familiar phrase came up.

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At the top of the list was having OpenAI make a better use of user signals in training its new models. User signals.

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Remember those? The metrics that appeared to make ChatGPT's personality so comforting, but that also may have put mental health at risk? The journal reported that Altman wanted to turn up the crank on that controversial source of training data, and that he now believed it was safer to do so after mitigating its worst effects.

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A spokeswoman said OpenAI carefully balances user feedback with expert review. For the next eight weeks, Altman's memo said, every other venture that wasn't ChatGPT should be seen as a side project on hold. That meant emphasizing, at least in the short term, user engagement over the company's loftier goal of pursuing AGI, or artificial general intelligence.

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