Chapter 1: What is vibe coding and how does it work?
Do you guys want to start out by introducing yourselves? Oh, why don't you go first, Joanna?
I am Joanna Stern. I am the Senior Personal Technology Columnist at The Wall Street Journal.
I am Ben Cohen. I am the Science of Success Columnist for The Wall Street Journal.
Ben and Joanna aren't just colleagues. They're also friends who frequently text back and forth.
Well, I often send Joanna annoying text messages about technology, and I started bothering her with texts about Claude Code, asking if she had played around with it and also asking, like, when are you going to write about it?
Claude Code is a coding tool made by the AI company Anthropic. The tool allows users to create websites, apps, or anything that requires coding just by typing your vision into a chat box. It's a process known as vibe coding.
It's coding with your vibes, right? You don't know how to code. You type it into your chat bot, describe the thing you want, and create the thing.
Late last year, Cloud Code received a major update. And it worked so well, it started blowing people's minds in the tech world. And a few weeks ago, Ben started playing with it and texting Joanna about the stuff he was making.
His first one was he was bragging about his new personal website that he made with Claude Code.
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Chapter 2: How did Claude Code evolve and what updates were made?
If you're not using Cloud Code in 2026, you're going to fall behind. I'm switching from Cursor to Cloud Code today based on all the hype. This is wild. This is actually wild.
Yeah, it definitely is a game changer and I'm loving it so far.
In early January, Ben started playing around with it too. And that's when he sent those text messages to Joanna. And as they were chatting, they got an idea for a way to really put Claude Coe to the test.
And so we were kind of sending screenshots back and forth, and we were kind of like, we should probably just do a story on this together. And then as I looked at our chat, I was like, we should just make this the story. We should vibe code this conversation about vibe coding and see if we can make the website an interactive column and put it on the wallstreetjournal.com.
Joanna and Ben wanted to see if the two of them, two writers with almost no coding experience, could create an interactive article on the Wall Street Journal's website just by using cloud code. They wanted the webpage to include screenshots of their chat messages with buttons that would allow readers to toggle into different formats.
So the conversation might initially look like messages on an iPhone, but click a button and the chat box would now look like AOL Instant Messenger from the 1990s. And to make this, all Joanna had to do was describe her idea to Claude Code.
I just put in this prompt to Claude Cote. I'll read you part. He said, I'm writing an article for The Wall Street Journal with my colleague Ben Cohen. The idea is that Ben and I go back and forth in the story to debate the merits of vibe coding. The whole story is done with little chats back and forth, looking like iMessage chats with our photos. Please design a webpage for this article.
And then what happened next? It did that, basically?
It did that. It designed a Wall Street Journal page, what it thought it should look like. It took some liberties with our logo and everything. But everything that sort of came beyond the top header was honestly 50% of the way there of what we actually published.
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Chapter 3: What was the experience of Ben and Joanna using Claude Code?
Brian is one of the people Joanna and Ben showed their code to. What did you think when Joanna and Ben brought you this code and this little project they've been working on? What was your reaction?
I guess, first, I was just, like, super impressed and glad to see more people messing around with this kind of stuff because...
Chapter 4: What implications does vibe coding have for various industries?
These coding agents kind of turn everybody into a developer, which is exciting for me because that means you can be doing more things and all of the responsibility doesn't necessarily fall down to one person when it comes to building tools or building things. But as Brian dug into the code, he saw that not everything was perfect.
At first, I saw a lot of outdated practices in the code, looking like it had been coded in the late 90s. There were significant problems with accessibility. You couldn't really use the keyboard to do things. If you were using a screen reader, you'd have no idea what was going on. The styles needed updating. It would have clashed with stuff on the page.
It did stuff that would have kind of made the rest of the page look like a mess if we'd left it in there. Oh, and there was a bug.
There were a few bugs. So if you were to give it a percentage of just going from, like, was it 100% done, 90% done? How would you give it a grade? Hmm. Say 80%, it was pretty close. 80% sounds like a lot.
Yeah. Here's our colleague Ben again. This is also like a really instructive example. Like code might get you 90% of the way there, but for that 10%, humans are not just valuable, but kind of essential, right? Like this whole thing doesn't happen without that last 10%.
Still, the process was a lot more efficient.
I have built many of these types of projects here over my years at The Wall Street Journal, working with our development team, working with our great graphics and design team. And projects like this can take weeks if it's a really big project where you've got a lot of deep reporting and you need it to look really perfect.
This, as we were saying, took seconds and two days to get from start of idea to finish.
I asked Brian, the computational journalist, if Claude Code made him worried about his job. Not really.
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