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Anna Wintour: Vogue [Outliers]

17 Jun 2025

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1.212 - 27.427 Anna Wintour

Anna Wintour once looked at photos from a $300,000 fashion shoot and killed the entire story without explanation. The photographer was Steven Meisel, now one of fashion's legends. He was so furious, he refused to work with her for years. Today, he credits her with making him better. This is the Anna Wintour paradox. She's fired assistants for poor clothing choices.

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27.748 - 53.83 Anna Wintour

She's made editors stand during meetings because sitting wastes time. When asked what job she wanted once, she replied, yours. And the meeting ended abruptly. She got the job anyway. For 40 years, people have been predicting her downfall. She's too harsh, too demanding, too unwilling to compromise. Meanwhile, she keeps getting promoted. At 75, she now runs every magazine at Condé Nast.

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54.03 - 80.747 Anna Wintour

Because Anna figured out something most leaders never learn. In a world awash in mediocrity, maintaining standards looks unreasonable. But standards are also the only moat that matters. And if you want to understand how a British girl who couldn't type built the most bulletproof career in media and what that means for your own ambitions, you need to hear this story.

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88.945 - 112.765 Anna Wintour

Welcome to The Knowledge Project. I'm your host, Shane Parish. In a world where knowledge is power, this podcast is your toolkit for mastering the best for what other people have already figured out. Anna Wintour got fired for refusing to compromise her vision. The magazine that fired her, it's dead. Anna, she runs every magazine at Condé Nast, including Vogue at age 75.

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113.506 - 133.293 Anna Wintour

This is the story of how a British girl who couldn't type or so built the most powerful position in global media, then made it impossible for anyone else to take it away by continuously reinventing herself. Here's what a lot of people get wrong about power. They think it's about climbing ladders. Anna understood it's about building the ladder itself.

133.594 - 149.161 Anna Wintour

While her competitors fought for promotions, she built infrastructure. While they protected magazines, she created platforms. While they pleased bosses, she made bosses need her. The result? Four decades at the top of an industry that reinvents itself every five years.

149.462 - 171.637 Anna Wintour

She survived the death of print, the digital revolution, the great financial crisis, the social media transformation, and a pandemic that killed most of her competitors. How? By mastering the principles that sound simple, but almost nobody executes. First, she figured out that being fired for your uncompromising standards is very different than being fired for your performance. One is failure.

171.757 - 191.245 Anna Wintour

The other is intelligence. Second, she learned that in creative industries, speed beats perfection because perfection without deadlines is just procrastination with better excuses. Third, she discovered that real power comes from making yourself essential to multiple systems simultaneously. Even if one fails, you survive.

191.225 - 211.807 Anna Wintour

This episode draws from Amy O'Dell's definitive biography to reveal how Anna transformed from fashion assistant to cultural kingmaker. But more importantly, it extracts the repeatable lessons and strategies that she used, strategies that you can apply whether you're building a career, a company, or an empire. Her greatest insight wasn't about fashion.

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