Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Back from holidays.
Hey. Where did you go for holidays, Jackie?
I didn't go anywhere this year. This was the first time I decided to just stay, you know.
Local.
But on the other hand, you... Everywhere.
Went everywhere. Oh, my Lord. How was that? I've circumnavigated. I feel like Christopher Columbus.
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Chapter 2: How was the holiday experience shared by the hosts?
Okay. Can I ask what your flight route was, just out of interest?
Yeah, yeah. A beautiful Emirates flight here to Dubai. Yep. And then we stayed overnight in Dubai because we like to break it up for the kid. That's a good idea, yeah. And then another seven-odd hours to Helsinki. Stayed there the night. That was lovely. Food was strange. Why? Just weird food. Like fermented fish and stuff? They love the fish and they love gamey meats.
They love the reindeer and all that sort of shit. They eat the reindeer? They eat the reindeer. Oh, wow. There's hundreds and hundreds. I guess we eat kangaroos. It's like us eating cows. Yeah. But there were so many Australians there, hundreds and hundreds of Australians. Then when I got back, I saw a Qantas ad. Go to Lapland. Quite a special day. Okay, right.
That's why there's so many of us there.
And it's worth going, though.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they said, once you get there, it hasn't snowed. And I thought, oh, great. We're going to go to the world's coldest town with no snow. Yeah, yeah. And I was expecting it to be horrible. But it had been snowing. It was five inches deep of snow.
Oh, so it all looked pretty.
Everything was covered in white. Oh, how beautiful. Yeah, it was lovely.
Now, do they actually have a Santa walking around?
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of political fragmentation in government?
I'm a believer in mainstream politics and that the parties of government It's important. It served this country pretty well. I look at overseas where you have a real fragmentation and you might have five or six parties in government and it's unstable. Italy, of course, was famous for a while there, changing governments every year. And so, I mean, it's...
It's a reality that the coalition in particular have to deal with. I think that they need to stand for some positive things as well.
Yeah. Well, she's over there, Pauline, and she's got Barnaby there as well now. By the way, I heard Donald Trump asked you directly to be a part of the Board of Peace for Gaza. Is that something you're going to consider?
Yeah, look... No, we'll consider anything that is put forward. President Trump, of course, I have a pretty good relationship with, but there are some Areas of disagreement as well, obviously.
Chapter 4: How does the Prime Minister approach disagreements with Trump?
You've got to be careful when you disagree with Trump because, you know, you don't want tariffs and all this. It's quite the dance you're doing there. But you've done quite well. You had a great, successful meeting with the president and his team at the end of last year. You couldn't have had a better trip, I feel.
No, it was terrific. And I deal with people respectfully. Where there's area of disagreement, sometimes you've just got to put them aside and work on what you agree on and your common interests. And with the United States, we have a common interest on security issues, on critical minerals.
What do you think of that Greenland thing? He wants Greenland. Should they just give it to him or not?
I think our position is that it is a sovereign state. And we support, you know, that's a matter for the people of Greenland and the people of Denmark.
But what about Princess Mary?
What about Queen Mary?
Queen Mary being Australian. Shouldn't we buy in? Queen Mary is coming here. Yeah, when? She'll be... She'll be here.
I'm not sure that we're publicly released the dates, but it's quite exciting.
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Chapter 5: What challenges arise from the recent gun laws and their enforcement?
Queen Mary and King Frederick. Yeah. How fancy. I love these two. I know that Jodie's very much looking forward to that visit here, let me tell you.
Oh, yeah. Now, are you going to invite us? I'd love to bring Otto around to meet the King and Queen.
Drop around. Drop down to Canberra.
Oh, it's going to be down at the lodge, is it? It's quite the effort to go there.
Yeah, how often do you go to Kirribilli? Look, I spent a bit of time there. When I'm in Sydney, I stay in Kirribilli, but primarily. Our home is here at the lodge, which is much quieter. It doesn't quite have the views of Kirribilli, of course.
Would you ever consider Airbnb-ing Kirribilli out just to make a bit of coin back?
They do pretty well. We get the budget in the surplus.
Imagine New Year's because you're paying like $60,000 for penthouse apartments on New Year's Eve on Sydney for the one night. Minimum night stay, five nights, by the way. These are big, big money.
Imagine how much you'd get at Kirribilli with all those lawns overlooking the harbour.
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Chapter 6: What challenges arise when reading War and Peace?
I don't know how. Would you even understand half the words in that? It's very difficult. It's not an easy read.
Well, I knew about War and Peace, obviously, because, you know, everyone does. They refer to it. If you write a really long text message, they joke that you're writing War and Peace because it's the biggest novel.
No one's ever accused me.
Chapter 7: What mental strategies can be learned from War and Peace?
I'm always like, yeah.
I love doing like epic novels in my text messages. I don't understand how people condense it so easily. I can't. Like I need to get all the thoughts and words out. And so I have sent text messages where you have to click on read more and it opens up into a note. Like it takes you out of the app into a note.
Chapter 8: How do personal experiences influence reading preferences?
I usually only get those during arguments.
Yeah, usually when you've really got a lot on your mind.
And another thing. So what is the book actually about?
Good question, actually, Brooklyn. You haven't read it? So when we're at this lunch, my friend Jane is like, I'm going to do the War and Peace challenge because the challenge is there's 365 chapters in War and Peace. Oh, my God. So you read a chapter a day. And I thought, okay, let me Google what is the average amount of a chapter in War and Peace. And it actually seemed doable.
You would have been better off going on holidays, I feel.
I feel I would have. But in my mind, I thought, how good would it be to say that you have read War and Peace?
Oh, I tell everyone I've read it and I've never read it. I go, I've read it. It's not that good.
No one would ever believe you if you said you read it because you say you never read books. Why would you read War and Peace?
I wouldn't. We know. But the method of war and peace is a brilliant strategy. It's a mental strategy that you're supposed to take away from that.
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