Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Your above average intelligence brought you here. It deserves above average absurdity. This is The Last Show with David Cooper. They say the smartest people ask the best questions, but what if that very skill, the ability to ask deep, complicated questions, actually hurts your academic scores in school? There's a new piece of research that shows curiosity might be bad for your grades.
This is not good news to me, but I'm here with Tuval Raz, a cognitive psychologist and creativity researcher at the Technion Institute of Technology, who has studied just this. Tuval, welcome to the show.
Hello, Dave.
It's great to meet here. Look, we're told asking good questions is the hallmark of a curious mind. Your study suggests that skill might hurt you on certain exams. What is going on?
Yeah, I think that's the, of course, you sort of touched on the heart of this sort of paradox or sort of contrast. We want to encourage our students to ask good questions.
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Chapter 2: What is the paradox of asking complex questions in education?
But our research actually shows that if we test them on question asking and then measure their success through these sort of standardized tests, we see that the ones who actually ask the most creative questions, the most complex questions are actually the ones who do poor on these standardized tests. There is a sort of silver lining because we do that.
We see that they improve on these sort of open ended tasks where there isn't one correct answer. But sadly, research shows that over 70 percent of tests in courses in academia are actually standardized tests. So we're actually measuring them on things that hurt them.
Now, let's zoom into what asking a good question really is. You mentioned, what, creativity? Is it showing any kind of curiosity? Is it skepticism? What actually constitutes a good question?
Chapter 3: How does curiosity negatively impact academic performance?
So, pardon the pun, but that's a good question.
I'll take it, I'll take it.
Yeah, there are all sorts of questions when you think about it. You can have these sorts of questions you ask yourself, like, what am I doing? That's not really the type of question that we're dealing with here. We're talking about something called epistemic questions. They sort of come from an information sort of viewpoint. You want to learn something.
And you launch this question into the world and you hope that the information you get will please you. You hope it'll be good enough. And if not, you ask another question. And when we started doing these sorts of studies a couple of years ago, there wasn't really a standard metric or sort of consensus on how we measure a good question.
We had some work with kids, but there also wasn't a lot of work on adults. And so we sort of devised our task. It's called the alternative questions task, where you ask questions about basic objects. And when we decided how to measure it, we looked to creativity, which is something that's very important for school. It's something that the UN identifies like a top five skill for this millennium.
And also we looked at complexity, which is sort of relates to higher order of thinking, these sorts of skills that Hux, if you're familiar with Hux, the acronym that we sort of want to encourage in our students. And we measured our task using creativity metrics and complexity metrics.
So I wouldn't say that a creative and complex question is everything there is to say about a good question, but it's at least a part of it. It's only the beginning.
Are good questions, complex questions, helpful for learning? I'm not talking about helpful for getting good grades. I'm talking I went to a course at a school, a university, and then I walked away from it feeling like I really learned something. If I ask good questions, am I learning better?
So I think that also touches upon one of the interesting findings we had this study because it was longitudinal. That is, we measured them at the beginning and at the end of the semester. And we actually saw that those who at the beginning of the semester asked the more complex questions had poorer grades.
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Chapter 4: What defines a good question in the context of learning?
So you have to come from a place of ideology.
And what advice would you give students based on what you've studied? I know we can tell professors to design different types of tests and stuff. Some will listen, many won't. But a student who wants to do the best, what kinds of questions should they be asking and when? What would be the big takeaway for me if I was entering my first year of university?
I think instead of just trying to figure out what the professor wants me to learn or how do I ace this course as fast as possible, maybe sort of raise questions for myself. Like, what do I want to get out of this? What am I interested about? That's even before I learn something or I start the course. What are my goals? What do I hope to achieve? And sort of be aware of your studying.
I mean, you have to cram. I know I understand that maybe your first years are hard, but as you progress, I mean, what do you want to take away from your degree? What do I want to learn?
Well, Tuval, I've had you here to talk about your research and I'm glad you have, but you are a creativity researcher. And so I wonder if we might follow this tangent. Are there secrets to being more creative at what we do? I'm asking for a friend who's a radio host who interviews people and wants to do it more creatively. It's not me.
Yeah, so you can tell your friend that I think most of us don't define ourselves as creative because usually we think of these big artists, these Van Goghs, and these are like the creative personas, and we think that we're not creative. But the good truth, actually, in creativity research is that all of us are creative in our own ways. You may think of a new way to get to work.
You may figure out a small problem in your life. That's creativity. And there isn't one exact way to be creative. There is a lot of research on that, which I don't have time to go into. But the good news is that we're all creative in our own way. And it's not just artists or these big scientists or whatever.
I have this definition of an artist. It's like if you tell someone they're not an artist and then they say, oh, no, no, yes, I am. That's enough for me. Like anyone is an artist if they think they are. And I think all work can be creative, whether it's super corporate or whether you're a painter. Well, I've enjoyed chatting with you about this research.
Tuval, thank you so much for being on the show.
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