Dads and Jokes and Dad Jokes

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David Cooper 0:03
We're here because your heightened awareness deserves heightened entertainment. The Last Show with David Cooper. For dads, bonding with their children is definitely about being there when they cry, when things are tough, but there's some real magic that happens when a dad and child laughs together. Dad jokes might be doing some serious emotional heavy lifting and securing that relationship of father and child. I'm here with someone who's done research on this. He is a psychology professor at the University of Ottawa, and his name is Jean-Francois Bureau. Jean-Francois, welcome to the show. It's nice to chat with you. Thank you, David. Let's talk about this profound question about parenting science.
David Cooper 0:44
I feel like this is about crying babies, not laughing ones.

What unique role does laughter play in father-child relationships?

David Cooper 0:48
I feel like psychologists have been getting this wrong, studying the wrong thing. What made you want to look at laughter?
Jean-François Bureau 0:54
Well, there's nothing wrong looking at how parents are able to comfort a crying baby, but that's not the end of the story, right? That's not the only thing you want to do as a parent, saying, oh, I'm waiting for my child to cry so I can comfort and show what a good parent I am. It's also enjoying your time with the child and sending a very strong message that you enjoy just being with them, interacting with them and being playful, right? So that is tremendously important and it has been understudied.
David Cooper 1:25
So tell me about laughter. Tell me how it's a kind of social glue that connects a father and a child. What's going on when we laugh with our children?
Jean-François Bureau 1:34
Well, we know laughter is really important, right?

How do dad jokes contribute to emotional bonding?

Jean-François Bureau 1:37
It's important in human. Chimps laugh with their parents. Their parents are tickling them. Rats. Rats laugh. Really? Yeah. If you tickle a rat, it will have this micro sound. So they laugh. So it's part of all the mammal species that there's a connection. I am enjoying being with you. Of course, I'm talking about the kind of laugh where you enjoy being with someone, not being sarcastic, right? Yeah. So there is a bonding, there is love, there's hormones that are being released when you laugh. So that is really important with kids and that's important in the relationship also. So the question is, do we laugh more with dad? Do we laugh more with mom? Is that more important with dad?

What motivated the research on laughter in parenting?

Jean-François Bureau 2:22
Is that more important with mom? Is this a big component of the relationship? This is really what we want to look at.
David Cooper 2:29
And laughter with mom is different than laughter with dad. That seems so, I don't know, striking to me that laughter can mean something coming from a different parent.
Jean-François Bureau 2:39
Tell me more about that. There is a few myths here that it's important to address. So first of all, In general, moms spend way more time with children than dads, just in terms of number of hours. So the first thing that's really important, mothers spend more time per week playing with children than fathers. So the idea that only dads, it's our specialty, and dads are playing and moms are boring, this is kind of a myth. Because moms spend more time playing, dads spend a bigger proportion of their time playing. So that's one thing. So in our research, we look at the different strategies parents are using. We were expecting mom to be more verbal, songs, things like that, with dad being more physical. And we're kind of surprised to see that moms are using the exact same amount of tickling and chasing and rough and tumble kind of thing.
Jean-François Bureau 3:37
And children were laughing as much with mom and dad. So there were no differences there. But it seemed to be more central in the relationship with father, which was interesting, too.
David Cooper 3:50
It sounds really interesting, that stereotype that dad's the fun parent and mom is the responsible one. I think it's important to blow that up a little bit. But in some ways, your study kind of reinforces it, too.
Jean-François Bureau 4:02
It brings an interesting nuance where it suggests that... Look, mom and dad are as capable of making a child laugh. So that's what we found. However, it is related to the quality of relationship and to trust the child as in the parent. Only in the father-child relationship.

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