Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Eric Dane, the actor probably best known for his roles in Grey's Anatomy and the show Euphoria, has sadly died. And we are going to discuss his appearance in Netflix's Famous Last Words series here with Caitlin Green, a media personality and co-host of the Jan Arden podcast. Caitlin, welcome to the show.
Thanks so much for having me.
This Netflix series, Famous Last Words, this is the second installation of it. I haven't seen them, actually. You have. Walk me through the premise of this series. I believe it's kind of like a Danish idea before Netflix snarfed it for the English audience.
Yeah, exactly. So it was a Danish format. And I think the translation from the show from Denmark was like the last word, something to that effect. But basically what it is, is people who I think might feel that they are towards the end of their life. will sit down and record their last words. So Jane Goodall did this.
Now, whether or not she was aware of the fact that she would pass on, she was obviously older. And so she recorded an episode of the US version for Netflix. And then the most recent one is Eric Dane, who'd been struggling with ALS for quite some time.
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Chapter 2: What are the details surrounding Eric Dane's passing?
So he clearly knew that this was going to happen at some point. And the idea is that these sort of celebrities and public figures record this. And then after they pass, the episode releases like very quickly. It's the same way that you'll notice a lot of media outlets will immediately have like an obit for a celebrity. They have it all pre-written.
It's kind of like that, but it's like a lot more touching and heartfelt. And so Eric Daines was released over the weekend. It immediately goes viral. And predominantly he is recording it for his two daughters. And that's why it's really, really poignant and heartfelt. And he has ALS, but I believe he recorded this a year before his passing, perhaps, just maybe under a year.
So I had watched it and I remarked to my husband that I thought he looked fabulous. I mean, he's an incredibly handsome actor, but he's obviously struggling and unwell and not communicating in exactly the same cadence he might normally. But he is very clear-minded and it was powerful. And I thought that he just seemed...
I was like, oh, this is how I would, if I was him, like want your kids to remember you. And he gives them sort of five, I think it was three or five things to live by. And one thing that he said was he really wants them to fight. He wants his two daughters to fight.
He talks about how much he's fought with this illness, how happy he still is in spite of being very sick and that he felt like he had been knocked down many times in life and he continued to get up and that that was his superpower was his resilience. And I was like, man, every single person could hear this message right now and take something from it.
It's kind of a remix of the, it's not the destination, it's the journey, but framing it like the journey involves a fight and the fight gives life meaning. Is that kind of what he was saying?
Kind of, and just really that like, you know, everything in life is not going to always be easy. You may have disappointments in your personal life. You know, he was divorced. You may have disappointments in your professional life. I think every actor in Hollywood has no shortage of those. You may receive a devastating diagnosis like he did when he was told he had ALS.
But I think the fact that he said, you know, I still love my life.
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Chapter 3: How does the Netflix series Famous Last Words portray its subjects?
I'm a happy person and I want you guys to be happy. Like that's such a nice gift to give to your kids at a very sad time in their lives and this sort of troubling transition. And I just thought this is a rare, this might be a rare moment where television is doing something good for humanity. Not everyone's going to want to watch this.
It's obviously kind of somber and touching and you may not want to go there. You may just want to watch another episode of the office, which is, which is also understandable and, But I like this and I thought this is a nice this is a nice little something they're doing. They stole the right content from Denmark with this one.
And the Swedes have their death cleaning, you know, where they clean up their homes before they die so that they pass on to their loved ones in a state that where the papers are in order and there's not mess and you got to deal with your clutter and junk. And now the Danes have this record a message before you die to speak to the people you love after you die.
You get these nice kind of like death narratives from the Nordic countries, which I kind of like, I gotta say.
It's true. And we really avoid death a lot. And I certainly understand why. But when you realize that it is this inevitable part of your life, ironically, that you will be touched by, you will lose people you love, you will lose things, you will experience grief. I think avoiding it altogether makes us all the more ill-equipped to deal with it in the first place.
And so having these living obituaries from these pretty cool people, I really enjoy what they're doing.
I wonder, Netflix is pretty tight-lipped. Did they say this was coming out or Eric Dane just sadly passed and then they released it a few days later?
Exactly. Yep. I think that's what happened. And I don't know that anyone other than Brad Falchuk, the creator of this version of the show knows who else is going to be coming up, but I think that he's, he's working pretty hard and he's married to Gwyneth Paltrow and he is a, by all accounts, he's a big name in Hollywood, big producer.
And everyone says that he is like this kind magic rare person who everybody loves. And that's why he's so particularly well-equipped to make this type of show.
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Chapter 4: What poignant messages did Eric Dane share in his last words?
I grew up watching, again, being a bit older when I watched Toy Story, but I still liked it. And now my son has a Buzz Lightyear in his room. He watches Toy Story. He loves Woody. He knows Woody. And it's really familiar. And my son even loves Disney shows that were old when I was very young. He loves The Jungle Book from 1964. He loves Peter Pan.
I have to fast forward through a lot of the racially insensitive parts now. I don't know. But anyways... It's still like these things are timeless. Am I back?
You are back here with Caitlin Green. You're not supposed to talk. It is media news, pop culture news. Caitlin Green's a media personality. She co-hosts the Jan Arden podcast. Let's talk about this movie, Wuthering Heights. I didn't read the book as a kid, but many people did. Many people love this book. Did you read it?
I did, but I don't remember much of it because I was forced to read it for an assignment and I had to read through, like I go through chunks and it was a real, it was very laborious for me because it's quite wordy and I'm not a wordy reader. I'm more parsed back on the, you know, Hemingway side of things than I would be to like the flowery language of Wuthering Heights.
Plus, spoiler alert, it's a huge bummer. The content of this book and the movie is incredibly depressing.
Yeah. Yeah, but it's sexy. It's swoony. It's romantic. I mean, like, it's a fun book, but it's a dark book.
Yeah, it's a dark, sexy book for sure. And they've cast the two sexiest people on the face of the planet to star in the film. And so it had a lot of fanfare. It was very buzzy. The release was very buzzy. But the question is, was all of that buzz authentic?
Well, Margot Robbie, if you just woke up under a rock star of the Barbie movie, for me, she's like not that hot because she's too perfect. She's like, you need something. You'd have something wrong with you to be hot. It's the same reason I don't really like the Beatles. They're too perfect of a band. Like, I like the Rolling Stones. Like, they're off tempo. They're off key. They're gritty.
Who knows if Keith Richards is even going to show up to a gig? You know, like, I like things need to have blemishes in order to have great beauty. And she's too perfect, Margot Robbie.
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