Ferret Catching WonderDog

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

David Cooper 0:03
The Last Show with David Cooper, where we utilize nonlinear reverse inverse backward thinking protocols. It sounds like this. If you need medication for little Snowball, little Foo Foo, little Fluffy, your little pet, and it's expensive, you've got options, and some of them vets don't like. We're here with Dr. Cliff Redford. It is Vet Talk. It is Pet Talk. Check out Cliff's podcast, Vet Life, wherever podcasts are sold, usually for free because they don't cost money. Cliff, welcome to the show. This is going to be a good one, man. A barn burner. I am struggling to see the controversy in pharmacies in some places, including Ontario, where you live, selling pet prescriptions. Why would that even be a problem?
David Cooper 0:49
Maybe because I'm not a veterinarian. I failed to see the controversy, but set it up for me.

What are the implications of pharmacies filling pet prescriptions?

Dr. Cliff Redford 0:55
Well, I actually don't think there's much of a controversy, but it's important that people know about this. And there are some veterinarians that are complaining about it, and I'm not on their side, David. I'm on the side of the pet owner. Ooh. I know. So this story has actually been ongoing back and forth. It occasionally pokes its head for the last decade. And it's about how you can get... pet prescriptions from places other than your veterinarian. And Ontario pharmacies like, you know, regular human pharmacies are catering to pet owners more and more. So I'm able to write a prescription. to any sort of human pharmacy and Fluffy Cooper, Tomato Cooper needs his- Tomato Keg. Tomato Keg. Needs his dermatitis medication and I can write those prescriptions.
Dr. Cliff Redford 1:51
And the pharmacists are saying this can reduce costs. Absolutely. They can buy in bulk. Their overhead's a lot lower, so they're able to still make a profit and sell some of these medications that are much cheaper, especially if they're also human medications, which a lot of dog and cat medications are human medications as well or vice versa.
David Cooper 2:13
Wait, are human pharmacies stocking pet-only medications, popular ones?
Dr. Cliff Redford 2:20
Um, they're starting to, yes. The problem is, is so back in the day, you know, five years ago, 10 years ago, veterinarian, uh, uh, pharmaceutical companies making veterinarian medications sort of had this wink, wink, nudge, nudge exclusivity with just veterinarians, which is not appropriate. It is against normal, uh, capitalism, let's say normal competition. Um, But the pharmacists got word of this. They started to push their governments as they should. The governments have started talking to the pharmaceutical companies saying, you can't just sell this to veterinarians. That's a monopoly. That's not correct. So there are going to be some animal only products available at pharmacies. But the issue is, so pharmacists are saying, yeah, the pet owners can save money.
Dr. Cliff Redford 3:14
Absolutely. And that's important. Now, some veterinarians are saying this is a big problem. There's going to be such huge risks that the animals are going to be in danger. And one of the things they talk about is there's a big difference in the metabolism of drugs between cats, dogs, and people, and that the animal's physiology is different than people. And the pharmacists haven't been trained to understand that. But my argument is, well, the pharmacist isn't the one prescribing the drug. I'm prescribing the drug. And if I accidentally write on the prescription prednisone for cats instead of prednisolone for cats, prednisone is better for dogs. It's not the pharmacist's job to say, I think Dr. Redford
Dr. Cliff Redford 4:03
forgot a syllable i suppose they'd be more likely to do it with a human because they like understand it and they go to pharmacy school and all this that and the other but at the end of the day i i kind of agree with you i think it's the responsibility of the veterinarian now there can be errors or mistakes or dangers with non-medicinal ingredients within the the prescription that i don't know i don't know about the pharmacist doesn't realize like for example a lot of flavored medications, have xylitol in it as an artificial sweetener. Xylitol is toxic to animals.

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