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The Last Show with David Cooper

Laura Danger: On Weaponized Incompetence - January 13, 2026

14 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

3.338 - 26.436 David Cooper

We're here because your heightened awareness deserves heightened entertainment. The Last Show with David Cooper. In the household, who is planning the meals, managing everyone's feelings, remembering the birthday, while the other person keeps saying, just tell me what to do and I'll do it. Is that incompetence in your partner or is it an invisible power struggle at the home?

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26.836 - 38.627 David Cooper

Let's talk emotional labor, fairness, even weaponized incompetence here with Laura Danger, an educator and author. Check out her book, No More Mediocre, that's available wherever books are sold. Laura, welcome to the program.

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38.911 - 41.176 Laura Danger

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited.

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41.877 - 48.791 David Cooper

Just give me a definition. I feel like I've heard it a lot, but there's got to be somewhere out there who this concept is new to them.

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Chapter 2: What is weaponized incompetence and how does it affect relationships?

48.832 - 55.806 David Cooper

Weaponized incompetence. The phrase often makes people laugh, but what does it mean? How does it apply to everyday relationships?

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56.258 - 80.443 Laura Danger

I feel like weaponized incompetence is one of those terms where you hear it for the first time and you go, oh, no, yep, I definitely have experienced that, even if we can't put it to words. So weaponized incompetence could also be described as strategic incompetence or failing on purpose. It is a way of doing a bad job, being negligent.

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80.423 - 104.167 Laura Danger

Yeah, basically doing a bad job in order to get out of having to do it again or in order to make someone else do something for you. This shows up at work. This shows up in our partnerships and our friendships and our families. It is a way of skirting accountability or responsibility. And often it is its power comes from emotional labor.

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105.708 - 107.41 David Cooper

Which is what?

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107.643 - 132.79 Laura Danger

So emotional labor is, it's the self-editing that you do in order to create an emotional environment or to maintain a relationship. It is the tone, your body language, the ways that despite how you are feeling in that moment, you are affecting other people.

133.141 - 151.782 David Cooper

So suppose you have a kid and both parents equally take the kid to school, equally take the kid to the doctor, equally feed the kid, equally diaper the kid. But one partner is always like, did you do this? Did you do this? It needs to get done. This needs to get done for this time. From the outsider looking in, both partners share equal load when taking care of the child.

152.163 - 169.493 David Cooper

But in terms of actually managing whether the work gets done... that sometimes falls 100% on the other person. I think that's a good illustration of what emotional labor is. For those who don't do it and maybe don't even realize they're not doing it, is it always malicious? Is it always because they're a bad person?

170.097 - 179.986 Laura Danger

No. And there is you bring up a really good point. So there is emotional labor and cognitive labor are like rope tangled up together.

Chapter 3: What role does emotional labor play in household dynamics?

180.026 - 201.834 Laura Danger

And this there's this mental load, like you said, of we've got a diaper. We have to check all of the emails. We have all of these things on our schedule. What's in the fridge? What's coming up in our lives? What's happening today? And all of these things fit together like a big machine. You need to know all of the parts of it in order for it to run smoothly.

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201.854 - 222.617 Laura Danger

And when you are the one managing all of that, when you're the domestic engineer, the person who is directing and giving directions, there's the mental, the thought and the planning and the scheduling And there is this work you have to do to get other people to do it while maintaining a positive relationship.

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222.657 - 252.154 Laura Danger

You've got to get your kid to get in the car to go to the doctor appointment and still feel safe. So there's a ton of emotional, mental energy. Decision fatigue comes from that. And that's all invisible work that we wrap up as like a mother's love. Oftentimes it's very gendered. And we're taught that this is how things are. It's just this invisible stuff that just happens in our lives.

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252.194 - 257.479 Laura Danger

This is just what happens. And so it is not always malicious, but sometimes it is.

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258.117 - 274.352 David Cooper

And especially the more you learn about it and the more you have conversations with your partner who's trying to explain it to you. But then sometimes these people will just say, oh, but I'm just not good at that. I'm just not good at remembering the kid has to go to piano practice. Just tell me I got to take our kid to piano practice and I'll take them.

274.713 - 278.1 David Cooper

And then you'll take them and we'll share the labor. That's not sharing the labor, is it?

278.637 - 300.259 Laura Danger

It's not. And you know what's really interesting about this is a lot of people will get into a partnership and say, you know, we both believe in equity. We want an equal partnership. And one person will do a ton of planning and coordinating and making decisions that are thoughtful of the family unit. And then we'll ask the other partner, yes or no, do you agree?

300.299 - 319.545 Laura Danger

And then after the fact, if they have given their opinion, they both get equal credit for making that decision. There is this illusion that you have now collaborated on something because one person did this massive amount of planning and the other person said yes or no. It's very unfair.

320.217 - 328.745 David Cooper

So how often is this happening in households? Let's just, I mean, let's just, you say it's gendered. It obviously is heterosexual couples, man, woman.

Chapter 4: How can we identify weaponized incompetence in our partnerships?

328.785 - 333.4 David Cooper

How often does this kind of, I don't know, falling into patterns happen?

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334.021 - 359.809 Laura Danger

This is the norm. This is the standard. This is across the board. And it's not always in heterosexual, cishet relationships. This is something that you see across the board in many types of relationships, but it's very heteronormative. And this, again, this is the norm in most households. There is inequity in the cognitive and emotional and physical labor.

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360.582 - 368.796 David Cooper

I've talked to researchers and this still happens when a woman is a primary breadwinner. That's how ingrained it is in our society.

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369.277 - 390.135 Laura Danger

Yes. It doesn't seem to matter whether a woman is making less as much or more. than her partner, the only time you see a slight small smidge of a difference is if she is the sole breadwinner. And even then, it's not in the way that we would hope that it would be.

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390.195 - 401.372 David Cooper

Are there some common examples of emotional labor and people kind of taking this frame, just tell me what to do and I'll do it, that people don't even realize until it's pointed out to them?

Chapter 5: What are common examples of emotional labor in everyday life?

402.061 - 418.881 Laura Danger

I think one of the most obvious ones is with the groceries. So a lot of times someone will say, like, I know, you know, the groceries are such a stress for you. You're always talking about the meals. Let me take it over. And then they will say, just give me a list and I will go to the store.

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418.921 - 425.149 David Cooper

As if planning meals and stocking the fridge is about just going to the store. There's so much more to it.

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425.129 - 433.359 Laura Danger

Or even I will cook the dinner or just let me know what you want. I'll go order something for the family. That does not solve the problem.

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434.12 - 441.789 David Cooper

No, no. It's not like, OK, when it's my turn to feed the family, we order a pizza. And when it's your turn, you have to plan like a nutritious cooked shop for a meal.

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442.309 - 451.44 Laura Danger

Exactly. That's I hear that a lot about like, oh, great. You get the shortcut meal now that you've taken that off my plate. Now I can't have the shortcut meal later in the week.

452.213 - 455.277 David Cooper

And when there's no crackers in the cupboard, it's somehow my fault.

456.018 - 471.917 Laura Danger

Exactly. You didn't tell me what to get. That's the other part of it is when there is one person managing more of the mental and emotional load, they get blamed when things fall apart for not giving directions or not asking nicely enough or not thinking all of those things through.

472.698 - 481.309 David Cooper

And this doesn't just happen in couples that want to model their relationships after traditional values or whatever that means. This can happen to modern and progressive couples too, can't it?

481.492 - 509.306 Laura Danger

It sure can. And unfortunately, it is a bit of an embarrassing issue because that sort of inequity does not align with the values a lot of people talk about or proclaim to have. And so... I talk to a lot of people who behind closed doors are sort of protecting this inequity and this resentment that happens privately at home because they don't want to embarrass.

Chapter 6: How does weaponized incompetence manifest in the workplace?

561.057 - 571.86 Laura Danger

And if you can make room for each other and encourage each other to take part, that's really the foundation of it is this approach that this is something we are doing together.

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571.958 - 589.681 David Cooper

In your household, your partner and you both want to feed the family. When it's your partner's turn, she goes to the grocery store. She makes the list. She does all the shopping. She makes sure all the stuff you love is in the cupboard and in the fridge. When it's your turn to plan the dinner, you just order a pizza. And you think there's nothing wrong with that.

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589.781 - 600.835 David Cooper

Well, we're talking about weaponized incompetence here with author Laura Danger, who's also an educator. Check out her book, No More Mediocre. That's available wherever books are sold. Laura, welcome back to the show.

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600.916 - 602.018 Laura Danger

Thank you.

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602.799 - 613.955 David Cooper

We were talking a lot about how this shows up in relationships, sort of forcing the other person to really think about everything to do with the tasks that need to get done, not just the doing it. Does it show up at work a lot as well?

614.757 - 622.829 Laura Danger

Oh, 100%. And I'll tell you that this is where in my own personal experience, I have experienced it the most.

623.71 - 628.577 David Cooper

Yeah. And so what are some examples? And is it gendered in the workplace like it can so often be in the household?

628.743 - 653.772 Laura Danger

Absolutely. And again, there's research on this that a lot of times women are doing a lot of the non-promotable tasks, a lot of the planning of the office parties, of doing all of that connection work that happens in the workplace, even taking notes, the sort of stuff that you're thinking, oh, didn't we leave this 50, 70, 100 years ago, this gendered labor?

653.752 - 672.498 Laura Danger

But a lot of times they call it it's the failing on purpose, but also failing at the menial tasks or the things that are really annoying to do. And I'm sure as I say this, there are going to be so many people nodding along. But think about how many bosses do not know how to open a PDF.

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