Chapter 1: What traditional views exist about courtroom juries?
We work hard to strike the right amount of intelligence and ignorance. The Last Show with David Cooper. We picture justice, criminal justice, happening in a serious courtroom filled with wooden benches, juries, judges, all in person, all in a courtroom. But what if it works just as well on your laptop at home? Well, a new study suggests virtual juries might be as fair as in-person ones.
But are there still problems with this setup? That's what we're going to dig into with someone who's researched virtual juries. Her name is Christia Reed. She's a psychology professor at the University of Texas at El Paso. Christia, welcome to the show.
Hi, David. Thank you for having me today.
When I hear this question, can justice, fair justice, happen on a laptop with a webcam with someone maybe not wearing pants at home, my first gut instinct is, no, that wouldn't work. We need the formality of the courtroom to make justice function.
Chapter 2: How do virtual juries compare to in-person juries?
But my assumption might not be 100% correct, is it?
No, actually, so we did a study. We were in the middle of collecting data when the pandemic shut us down. So we were about six juries short for a study that we were doing. And we decided, hey, let's switch this up and compare in-person to virtual juries.
And so we made some comparisons, like we ended up collecting 30 juries virtually and made some comparisons and found very few differences between our in-person and virtual juries. So initially, the response is, hey, maybe there isn't a concern or major concerns, at least for some instances in which juries deliberate virtually instead of in-person.
The concerns that I would have, and maybe I'm wrong, I'm probably wrong, is that people would have emails open. On one screen, they'd have the trial. On the other, they'd have a video game. They'd be secretly texting on their phone, doing all the kind of distracting things you can't get away with in a courtroom. What did people actually do, though?
Were they heavily distracted or were they paying attention to these trials?
So we had about five to six people in each jury and there were 30 juries virtually. And it really seemed like they were engaged and involved in the trial. It was a short trial and it was a civil trial, not a criminal case. So that might change the way that you interpret this. And they were getting paid, and they were getting paid pretty well.
But for the most part, there were not really major differences between our in-person juries and our virtual juries in terms of how engaged they were. So it didn't seem like people were playing video games. It didn't seem like people were... were distracted in that way, which was excellent.
And that made it so that we feel like, okay, so at least this is maybe a place that we can start, although more research is necessary to see if it happens in longer trials.
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Chapter 3: What were the findings of the study on virtual juries?
So this was only like an hour. And like I said, we were paying them. So that might be a difference, right? It ended up taking like four hours, but the deliberation part was only an hour.
And I've never actually sat on a jury because I'm not American and I live in the US, so I'm not eligible. I get to tick off that box. What happens in a jury normally? Like what happens in the deliberation room and then what happened in the virtual deliberation room?
So for the most part, we don't know. So researchers can guess, but the courts aren't really involved in what's happening in the deliberation room. So it's not like I can videotape an actual deliberation. So this is kind of the closest that we can get in terms of viewing that.
where we can compare the people that were participating in our study in person versus those that are participating virtually. And the dynamics seemed essentially the same. There were fewer interruptions and other things on Zoom, which is what you might expect based on running this podcast and talking to other people in that way.
And so I thought that that was really interesting, that it seemed like there were less people talking over one another and more people had the opportunity to participate on Zoom. You always have one or two throughout the whole study that might not be paying attention in person or on Zoom. I think that we had to wake a participant up both in person and in Zoom.
So you still have concerns about just generally people paying attention, but it was less of a concern overall comparing the two medium.
Did virtual jurors report any differences than in-person jurors?
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Chapter 4: What concerns exist about distractions in virtual jury settings?
Very few. So there were differences that our virtual jurors were generally younger. They were more likely to have college degrees and they were more likely to be working full time. But this was a quasi-experimental study, which means that we had a little bit less control. So I don't know if you know anything about quasi-experimental studies or experimental studies.
Please quickly fill me in.
Okay. Okay. So quasi-experimental studies means that we didn't randomly assign people to be part of a virtual jury versus an in-person jury. We just were split at COVID. So basically, if they participated before COVID happened, they were part of the in-person juries. And if they participated after, they were part of the virtual juries. So we didn't have a lot of control over that element.
So there might be other reasons for those differences other than the fact that they were participating online versus in-person. Because COVID changed the dynamic of how things happen. We tried to keep it as similar as possible. So we recruited people in the same way in both mediums. And we tried to have control over that. And we did tech checks and other things.
But there are other things that might be explaining our results because it was quasi-experimental and we didn't have full control over that design.
I know you were saying at the break before we started chatting here, like, okay, these are just preliminary results. There needs more investigation. But is this something that you think could be used in the criminal or civil system? Like, do you think virtual juries are a good idea for courts to deploy widely?
I think it might be a good idea at least to look into, and there is some literature from the general, some courts had been doing some civil juries online during the pandemic, and a lot of the judges were saying that they were working pretty well. And so if people are being required to be there and they're taking it seriously, it seems like it might increase access to justice.
So there are elements in small rural communities and stuff where people might have a hard time getting to the courthouse. And so it might make that easier for people to serve as juries and really represent a jury of your peers. Right. But once it comes to like longer deliberations. So this was, like I said, a few hours in a day.
And if you're talking about three or four days or longer, maybe those might be more problematic. And then this, again, like I said, was civil, which you don't have the same like right to confront your accusers and right to be in person in some ways. And so I don't know how it would translate legally to criminal juries.
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Chapter 5: How engaged were participants in virtual jury trials?
So I think it's possible. I just don't know when.
Well, Christia Reid is a psychology professor at the University of Texas at El Paso. Christia, thank you for sharing your research with me. Thanks for talking about virtual juries.
Thank you for having me, David. This is great.
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