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The Laura Dowling Experience

#172 Dr Caoimhe Hartley | What Menopause Care Should Really Look Like

04 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What does joined-up midlife care look like?

3.018 - 27.502 Laura Dowling

Welcome back to the Lower Down Experience podcast, where each week I bring you insightful and inspiring guests that will open your mind and empower your life. If you're getting value from the podcast, a quick rating or sharing it with someone else really helps it grow. Something I hear all the time from women in their 40s and 50s is that they feel like their care is all over the place.

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Chapter 2: How can women over 60 access HRT?

28.183 - 39.471 Laura Dowling

One appointment for hormones, another for bone health, another for intimate health, and none of it is really joined up. That is exactly why I love BlackRock Health and what they have done in their Women's Health Centre.

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Chapter 3: What evidence supports the benefits of HRT for bones and brain health?

39.451 - 53.207 Laura Dowling

It is a full 360 approach to midlife health, bringing together consultants, specialist nurses and allied health experts all in one place. It's a small, focused team, which means your care feels personal and coordinated.

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Chapter 4: Why does the Women's Health Initiative still influence menopause care?

53.928 - 62.438 Laura Dowling

And what really stands out is how seamless it is. You can have your consultations, diagnostics and even procedures organised in a really joined up way.

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62.418 - 89.944 Laura Dowling

sometimes on the same day and it's not just about treating symptoms they look at the full picture your heart breast brain and bone health as well as your overall well-being with support from physio nutrition and psychology too this is how women's health care should be preventative joined up and centered around you if you are in that state of life and want to feel properly supported it is definitely worth looking into the women's health center at blackrock health

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94.852 - 96.235 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

Reva. Laura.

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Chapter 5: How does menopause affect brain function and cognition?

96.396 - 98.802 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

It's been a while. It has. It's been a minute, yeah.

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Chapter 6: What are the unique menopause care considerations for breast cancer survivors?

99.022 - 101.609 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

How are you? Good. Yeah, good. Busy, but good.

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102.17 - 108.286 Laura Dowling

The menopause conversation has taken off since you and I last sat down together, which was a couple of years ago.

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Chapter 7: How does hormonal change impact body shape and weight during menopause?

108.506 - 130.798 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

Yeah, it's mad, isn't it? How are you getting on? What are you up to? So busy, but good busy. I'm based in the Rotunda. So I do a complex clinic there for women who maybe have other medical conditions or things that make them maybe a bit more complicated. And then I'm also clinical lead for women's medicine in the new BlackRock Health Women's Health Centre.

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131.099 - 155.767 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

So that's a new, novel, custom-built, dedicated space for women's health where we really try to practice integrated care. So we have a combination of a GP-led service with an interest in women's health, obviously, with gynecologists and also all our allied health professionals, physiotherapists. We have pain management, endocrinology. We have a full radiology service with mammogram, ultrasound.

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156.247 - 158.71 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

We have a hysteroscopy suite. It's fantastic.

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Chapter 8: What is the current state of osteoporosis screening in Ireland?

158.69 - 159.593 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

That's great.

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159.613 - 181.954 Laura Dowling

And then what do you do in your spare time between all that? Lots, yeah. So three small kids, two big dogs. Life is good. Yeah. And a big husband. He's quite tall. He's very tall. Mick is a big... Like he's one of the firm favourites here on the pod. You know, the podcast I did with him on obesity was just really where the start of the conversation happened around obesity.

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182.074 - 203.301 Laura Dowling

And it's just gone from strength to strength. People just love it. They still keep coming back to it. No pressure. I still get messages. Well, he said to me, just make sure I beat Kiva. He's not competitive at all. A little bit of healthy rivalry amongst spouses. So you did mention about complex relationships. Menopause care that you're doing in the rotunda.

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204.062 - 222.924 Laura Dowling

And I will often get messages from women that feel that they missed out on HRT. They're in their 60s. They're pissed off. They feel that the conversation has left them behind because it's all now perimenopause and menopause. But the rules, you know, and inverted commas, I say this very much about the guidelines around women 60 plus can't get HRT or whatever.

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223.125 - 233.331 Laura Dowling

Where do you stand there or what can women actually expect if they are at that age and they go, I feel I missed the boat. I want to protect my bones. How am I going to do this?

233.412 - 252.111 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

Common sense has to prevail a little. So I think the way we should practice is we look at what evidence base we have. And that's where the guidelines come from. Realistically, you look at the patient in front of you and what they want, what their priorities are, their individual risk and benefit, and then a bit of common sense thrown in.

252.131 - 272.974 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

So what that means is that you have a conversation with somebody and tease out why they want to go on HRT, if that's what they're there for. So specifically, what are their symptoms? what's bothering them, what's affecting their quality of life. Look at their own risk factors for things like breast cancer. Look at their other risk factors for cardiovascular disease. Look at their bone health.

273.475 - 288.613 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

And you're taking a sort of holistic all round picture of that. And then it's my job to give them the information. It's my job to know the guidelines. But guidelines are just guidelines. That's all they are. So they're broadly generalizing, but they're not supposed to be used on an individual basis.

288.593 - 309.167 Dr Caoimhe Hartley

So we would then explain, you know, look, these are the known risks with HRT and they're not all about breast cancer. Like there's risks of side effects too. It's still a medication and you can run into trouble with side effects. So we try to tease all of that out. And sometimes the conclusion is do a trial of a few months and see what impact that has on how you feel and go from there.

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