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Living Your Legacy

She Survived Suicide and Found Her Purpose

22 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What personal experiences shaped Katie Jo Finai's journey?

0.031 - 21.759 Katie Jo Finai

So many mothers feel alone when they're feeling like they're not good enough. I mean, we have stories of postpartum depression, of psychosis, of my kids are struggling with addiction or drugs. We have a story of abortion in there. So these are the stories that if we tell them, we tell them in hushed voices. Or struggling with who am I now that I am a mom.

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22.259 - 33.298 Katie Jo Finai

And to be fair, it's a hard book to read because it's so authentic. We gathered stories that said, do you have a story that you know a woman needs to hear so she knows she's not alone.

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33.318 - 47.892 Katie Jo Finai

Katie Jo Finai is an internationally recognized drum artist, three-time best-selling author, and humanitarian speaker, and the founder of a global sound healing and shamanic education platform known for blending ancient wisdom, music, and modern transformational teaching.

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47.872 - 65.354 Kira Brinton

You are one of the bravest women I know. You're also one of the wisest women I know. And when she writes, y'all, every time she reads her writing in our mastermind, everyone's like, drop the mic. Like every time we're just like, what? Who is this woman?

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65.394 - 75.347 Katie Jo Finai

This is the leading edge of change in the world where we say, hey, we're different than others. These are the stories and the wisdom and the intuitions that we were burned for.

78.061 - 103.098 Rudy Mawer

It spans the globe like a super high school internet. Today, Apple is going to reinvent the phone. It's not over until I win. The Living Your Legacy podcast. For those who live to leave a legacy. That's extraordinary. The impossible. Oh, that is sensational. Jordan.

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Jordan.

104.993 - 116.528 Rudy Mawer

Chicago was the lead.

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Usain Bolt is the fastest man on the planet.

Chapter 2: How did surviving suicide redefine her identity?

166.649 - 169.375 Katie Jo Finai

I'm publishing before December. That's how.

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169.355 - 202.013 Kira Brinton

so i contacted you and we did it and then i started coming to your studio and doing book writing like workshops in utah and you just became a really solid piece i feel like in my life like we danced in and out um oh i'm gonna get emotional you have painted all of my sacred drums yeah i love those It's an honor. I love to do that. Yeah. Yeah. My Mary Magdalene.

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202.254 - 229.36 Kira Brinton

No, you didn't do the Mary Magdalene. You did Thecla and Isis. And there's a new one coming in. I can't hear who she is or what it is, but there's a new drum that needs to be birthed. And these drums, they move everywhere with me. And I just am so grateful for you for bringing those to me. And then you also, everyone who has watched any episode, you watch me drop my authors in with a sacred bowl.

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230.442 - 233.466 Kira Brinton

Katie Jo is the one that I bought the bowl from.

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233.446 - 255.268 Katie Jo Finai

Thank you. Yeah. That's so sacred to me. They are sacred. They're phenomenal. Yeah. They're art pieces and they're pieces of history. I specialize in the bowls that are over 500 years old. They're older than King Henry, than medieval art, than an old sword or gauntlets. These are timeless treasures. Yeah. Yes.

255.248 - 283.714 Kira Brinton

And mine is 600 years old. Yes. And I don't think I've ever told you this, but when my kids come back from a week with their dad, I bring my littlest one to my red light therapy mat every Sunday and I use the bowl on him to help him recalibrate back into my home. And they've healed. I've used this with every author. It goes with me everywhere. I love that. Yeah. So thank you.

283.995 - 306.272 Katie Jo Finai

Yeah. I mean, I want to say yes, and you're welcome, but I feel so honored that they're in my space. These are treasures that were created by hands and masters and artisans and that I get to have them so that they are available. So you've written a few books with me. Why don't we say the names of the books that you've written?

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Okay.

306.953 - 329.794 Katie Jo Finai

We started with the Moon Journal. That's the first one. Yeah. It's a journal. And I was like, hell or high water. I'm publishing. I don't care if it's a journal. And I love it. Very little writing. We're going to get it done. It's so beautiful. And then what I loved when we wrote Divine Collaboration. And by we, it's an anthology. Yeah. And I remember when you had posted about that.

Chapter 3: What unspoken struggles of motherhood does Katie Jo highlight?

403.509 - 425.352 Katie Jo Finai

I call it the house of learning. And she's like, that was our book of learning. Yeah, it was. It was back in the beginning. But I feel like the reason that it was our book of learning is because those stories are so important. And so we called it the, I'll say what it is where people can find it, because it's Unspoken Motherhood. Yes.

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426.496 - 450.085 Katie Jo Finai

I'm so passionate about it because so many mothers feel alone when they're feeling like they're not good enough. I mean, we have stories of postpartum depression, of psychosis, of my kids are struggling with addiction or drugs. We have a story of abortion in there. We have stories of... I maybe mentioned miscarriage. We have stories of giving a baby up for an adoption.

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450.105 - 469.598 Katie Jo Finai

So these are the stories that if we tell them, we tell them in hushed voices. Yeah. Or struggling with who am I now that I am a mom. And to be fair, it's a hard book to read because it's so authentic. And we're not professional. So many of us in that book, we're not professional authors. We gathered stories that said, do you have a story?

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469.578 - 475.813 Katie Jo Finai

That you know a woman needs to hear so she knows she's not alone. Yeah. And I'm so proud of that book.

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476.034 - 485.798 Kira Brinton

So am I. Yeah. Yeah. It's so beautiful. And you, the art, the sketch on the front of the book is me and my little girl. Yeah. Which is really, really tender to me.

485.778 - 501.357 Katie Jo Finai

Yeah, it's so special. And I sketched all the art in the book, all but one. And I just asked a lot of the authors, but a lot of my friends, if they would send pictures of their kids and what motherhood is to me. And then I just made a sketch.

501.797 - 529.531 Kira Brinton

It was such a sacred, sacred journey with that book. And now you actually are going to be on my TV show, Writer's Island, writing another book. Mm-hmm. And you are one of the bravest women I know. You're also one of the wisest women I know. And when she writes, y'all, every time she reads her writing in our mastermind, I was like, drop the mic. Like every time we're just like, what?

529.951 - 538.38 Kira Brinton

Who is this woman? You are a master with words. Thank you. And it's just like my deepest honor to know you. Oh.

538.36 - 556.999 Katie Jo Finai

I love knowing you. I love to see what you've created. I love to see where you're going. I love that you're giving a platform to not just women, to people who would have a platform. And I think that this is the leading edge of change in the world where we say, hey, we're different than others.

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