Rudy Mawer

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Hello and welcome back to another episode.

I'm sat here today with former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper, very excited for this show.

I've always been fascinated by the military and the core guiding principles of leadership and correct execution.

And as you probably know, there's not much room for error in some of those situations.

And that's just like business.

So here we go.

Very excited for today's episode.

Welcome to the show.

So I want to start from the top.

And this is always hard with people that have these crazy lives, right?

But can you try and summarize what you've been up to the last couple of decades and your life achievements?

Yeah, and I'm excited because, you know, I want to dive into that sort of the military mindset, the discipline leadership side, but you've obviously got, you know, the business side and seeing how they cross, right?

And, you know, as I was talking to you and most people listening now, I came from a family of pro athletes and I see such a massive crossover.

Actually, one of my senior execs is an old previous Olympic athlete in triathlon that was under my dad.

when he was the manager, and I hired him because of his core values, not so much his experience in what we do.