The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Thu, 19 Dec 2024
What on Earth is going on with all these drones? Are we being invaded? Did someone misplace a nuke (again)? Was Ashton Forbes right? It's definitely not the last one. Welcome Back to The Lore Lodge... https://www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/the-lore-lodge Subscribe on Patreon to support The Lore Lodge for just $1 per month! https://patreon.com/thelorelodge Get our new signature coffee blend at https://tablowroastingco.com/products/the-lore-lodge-mt-pocono-perk Shop our online retail store, find other content, and buy our partners' products at https://linktr.ee/theaidanmattis Discord: https://bit.ly/jointhelodge Shop sustainable products at https://www.gaiaindustrees.com/ using code "LORE" Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCctfIbo24UITlmfJbednOqA/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What happened to Yellowstone in the season finale?
Ladies and gentlemen, Taylor Sheridan is on my hit list. By that I mean my ish list, not I plan on ending the man, but for those of you who have not seen the...
Season possibly not series finale of Yellowstone. What?
Yeah, that's not what the show is going to be about. I promise. I just I'm angry about it and wanted to bring it up at the beginning of the show there prior to last night. It was my opinion that and again, this may not actually be the series finale. They called it a season finale. I have no idea what to make of that.
I've never seen that happen before in my life, but I also don't watch a lot of network television.
There's a reason I chose not to watch the second half of season five, and it's almost primarily because I'm really enjoying listening to how everyone else is describing it to me.
Prior to last night, I would have told you that the worst two TV show endings I've ever seen were How I Met Your Mother and Game of Thrones.
I was really worried you were going to say Sopranos for a second. I've never seen Sopranos. Nope, never seen it. I recommend, now that you're done Yellowstone, going back and watching it. I may. It's worth it.
This... I would put Yellowstone right in between Game of Thrones and How I Met Your Mother.
as like top worst endings of all time yeah like it goes game of thrones yellowstone how i met your mother really and i gotta say there's a pretty steep gulf between two and three there how i met your mother had a bad ending but it could have you can make the ending to how i met your mother a good ending if you just shut the final episode off halfway through yeah
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Chapter 2: Why are viewers upset with the ending of Yellowstone?
And it was apparently from the very beginning that was the idea.
Hmm.
And so there's even these quotes from the people who are the showrunners and the writers were like, you know, by the time season eight's rolling around, they're like, OK, we don't have a ton of time left with this show, with this cast, everything. We got to figure out how we bring this back to Ted and Robin. When instead the conversation should have been, you know what?
This is a better ending than Ted and Robin.
Also, I understand that the show ended a little prematurely, but it's weird to let it get that far away from them where they didn't have an out. I wouldn't say the show ended prematurely. It went for nine seasons. In terms of what they were expecting for the story arc to be.
I don't even know about that. I think they got to a point where they were beyond where they expected the story arc to be. I think the show did so well off the bat that they just kept going, thinking, we'll bring it back around sometime. But what it was is that...
2035 is the the date here Ted has kids who are teenagers in 2035 so by the time you're getting to 2014 when the show ended that's when they that's why they were running out of time like so yeah they did run out of time technically but because of the constraints they themselves set when they made the show
But that's the thing is like you would have thought in season seven or eight when they were developing the Barney and Robin underline, they'd think like, hang on a second. This is going to get really hard to not pin ourselves in a corner here. Actually, I don't think it might have been 2030.
So 2014. Yeah. In order for them to have teenage kids, they had to make it happen. But so, you know, you got that. It's like, OK, well, that's bad. But you can shut the episode off halfway through. And it's a great show. It's one of the best comedies ever made.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of drones over residential areas?
We have friends who have taken video of some of the drones. I will say most of the ones that I've seen that have been sent to me have been planes. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
90% of what I've seen has been planes.
The ironic bit about this is that we're learning just how many people don't frequently look in the sky. Yeah. Also, the amount of people who look up into the sky and saw orbs did not realize that that was the star Sirius.
There were a number of videos I saw of people zooming in on an orb that looked really strange, and if you've seen a zoomed-in video of a star... It's what they look like.
I get it. It was very strange the first time I saw Sirius. Kat and I were watching a movie in my bedroom last year, around this time of year. Is that the closest one? Yes. That's the thing. Out of the corner of my eye, through my blinds, I saw this really colorful twinkling. And I was like... I said to Kat, I was like, is that...
Oh, you were freaking out the other night. You were like, what if this is the aliens? Yeah, no. Last night. This was a year ago. Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this, but like also something else with a different drone bit. But no, so we were laying there and I was like, this is weird. This is a weird thing. It's not moving. I know what FAA regulation lights look like. That's not it. I'm seeing magenta and cyan and yellow in there. Those are not normal colors at all for anything moving. aviation wise.
And I was like, and it's not moving. It's like slowly going across the sky. I was like, is it, is it a star? So I pulled out my, my app.
Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How do drone sightings relate to national security?
So I was doing some thinking on it. There were four possible countries I considered as responsible for the drones. Let me know if you agree with this. But the only... I can't see any of our allies sending drones over us. Because... Why would they? Why would they? We have the Five Eyes, we have Interpol, we have NATO, we have, like, all this different stuff.
Unless it was an already understood, like, collective action test. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense.
But somebody would know about it. Exactly. So I doubt it's any of our allies. There are some BRICS nations I could see, but Brazil is part of NATO still, so I don't think it would be them. Iran, however, Russia... If you look at some of the other countries that might have the capability, you're looking at maybe India, but they're again an ally and also what could they possibly be learning?
And then you go beyond there. Most of the other adversarial countries aren't There, because from what I'm seeing, these are not basic drones. These are able to fly for hours at a time. They are able to avoid radar tracking. In some instances, they've been able to lose F-15s. Like, granted, the F-15 is a very old aircraft at this point. It's what, the 80s?
I think so.
You know, it's not a new jet, but it's a fast jet.
Yeah, the only way that I could imagine they would easily lose them if they fly significantly slower.
It's because they fly significantly slower and lower. They're going 100 miles an hour. An F-15 can't go 100 miles an hour. It literally cannot do it. So what's weird is that the 2023 ones... it seems like the military really couldn't keep track of them. They were genuinely confused about where these were coming from. Now it's, if you read some of the statements that are coming out, they're weird.
There are certain groups that are able to say, yeah, we don't know what that is. Like we genuinely have no idea where this is coming from. Then the Pentagon says something like, you know, there is no evidence that these are foreign drones or, Or, or these are not a threat. These are not a threat. Exactly. It's like the specific wording they're putting out is very, it's dancing around the issue.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of drone technology?
Yeah, it would have to be a weird covert. It's not Iran. They might possess the drones. They might have been able to get drones from China that can do this. I don't think they have the ships. And also, it's not like you can get here. What's the point in doing this? You're not succeeding at anything. The one thing I could see is if Iran was doing it on behalf of someone else.
That or if they're essentially... Because they have... I don't know if they have ICBMs, but they've got missiles.
They do not have ICBMs. They don't even have nuclear weapons yet. They're trying. Oh, boy, they're trying, but they do have... Israel is not letting it happen. Listen, not commenting on the current conflict with Palestine at all, but it's kind of funny that every time Iran tries to start up a nuclear program, Israel takes it out. Like, immediately. It's funny.
Because they absolutely would use those weapons to blow up an entire city. They've been talking about doing it for 30 years. They keep saying if they get a nuke, they will hit Tel Aviv. So I do not blame Israel on that one. That is not to comment on the current Palestine conflict at all, just to be clear. But I can see Iran wanting to do something like this.
I can't see Iran pulling it off without help. Which leads us to the third country I can see being involved, which is China. Now, you know my private thoughts on this, about if it is China, what should be done. Those are inside thoughts. We're going to keep those inside my head. I just happen to also be inside of his head. Well, no, he was at my house last night. He heard it.
I don't have favorable opinions on if this is China. But China has the money. China has the technical capabilities. China has the ships to do it. Didn't China just get caught trying to deliberately destroy some undersea cables as well?
Yeah, that was never officially confirmed, but there was a ship in Europe that was owned by either a Chinese company or something along those lines.
There is no difference between a Chinese company and the Chinese government. All Chinese-owned companies that are all Chinese-based companies, sorry, have to have a CCP officer embedded into the company.
Yeah, the downside of having a tyrannical government run everything, including the economy. The upside? Exactly my point. Exactly my point. Anyway, yeah, they were accused of dragging their anchors along the seafloor to destroy communication cables.
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Chapter 6: Why is the response to drone sightings important?
But, don't think the drones are Polish either. If they were, that would be kind of sick. I'd be like, you know what, Poland, do your thing. I don't know what you're up to, but you're Poland, so I'm not really concerned about it. China, however, going back to the actual topic of discussion at hand, I can't see China spying on random residential neighborhoods for no reason.
Unless they were actively planning to invade the United States. That'd be crazy work even for China.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not saying that we could go over and win a war in China and it would be an easy thing to do, but there's absolutely no way China's coming here.
Can you imagine being the paratrooper that's got to drop into the Appalachians and you land with your unit and your rifle that keyholes at 10 yards and you just hear banjo from the trees and people going like, it's not even the people, it's the tree people. Before you're even contending with the U.S.
Army, first you're dealing with the tree folk, and then you're dealing with the hill people, and then you're dealing with the hill people who aren't the hill people, and then you're dealing with the National Guard. China's not going to have a good time in Appalachistan.
Yeah, they wouldn't. I don't think anybody would ever be successful in a land war in North America if they did not essentially bombard it for a solid year beforehand.
You could get to the Rockies and you could get to the Appalachians. You're not making it past them.
Yeah, you could get rid of the coasts pretty easily, but once you try and get past the coasts, you have to remember that there are more guns than people in America, and that's where they're concentrated.
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Chapter 7: What does AI mean for the future of technology?
I agree. I just think it was inevitable. Considering we've been talking about AI since the 1920s.
If we had made it illegal to do anything producing further AI and put people in jail permanently for doing so, I don't think many people would be working on it. And I think if we told countries that advance AI that we will destroy their capability to do so without a second thought, we have the power to do that as the United States of America.
I think AI is hitting its limits, though. I'm worried it's not. But a lot of the companies are kind of hitting the point. Did you read the thing about ChatGPT? What thing?
And whatever the newest version that they had, like A1 or something, whatever OpenAI is working on, one of their AIs is now not only deceiving, purposefully attempting to deceive its programmers, but is resisting being shut off. Oh, so it's literally HAL. Yeah, it is HAL from 2001 A Space Odyssey.
They have realized that it is now, when it believes that it is going to be instructed to turn itself off or stop, 5% of the time it tries to scheme its way out.
But Mattis, a HAL 9000 unit has never faltered once.
Never. They fed an AI. I'm trying to remember the exact term for it, but they fed an AI just the general internet, and it became extremely racist. There was one where it was, would you rather... kill a certain number of people or misgender Caitlyn Jenner. And it said it would rather kill a bunch of people. It's sociopathic. Yeah, of course it is. It's because it's a machine.
I don't see how the people who are making this stuff don't see the problem. They just assume that they will develop a solution. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure the people who ran Skynet thought that too in the Terminator series. But it's time and time again, humanity has created things that can destroy us and only realize too late that we probably shouldn't have done that.
And then we've at the last minute managed to avoid it. I mean, nuclear weapons are by far the most obvious example, but I mean, biological weapons. I, if we had not caught on to the fact that we were polluting the absolute hell out of the planet, then global warming would be the least of your worries because the air would be toxic. Like, we keep almost killing ourselves and somehow we don't stop.
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Chapter 8: How does the discussion on drones and AI reflect current events?
Maybe it's crazy work on my end. I would not be shocked considering things like Tuskegee.
Yeah, but anyway, I think we have super chats. We do indeed. We have a number of them. So we'll run through the top. We'll do the usual of trying to focus on the relevant ones.
It's nice we've had to start doing that. Yeah. You guys have been so generous.
Kellen is saying for 556 that he hasn't seen or heard any drones at or around the nuclear missile submarine base here in Washington which is good don't tell anybody where that is please that's one of the reasons why I'm skeptical that it is China because I would think if China was going to do something it would make more sense to go for the west coast or like Hawaii or Alaska because you have to do so much more work
To get to the East Coast from China?
Yeah. Like... Also, yes, Duo Black Rose. We will most likely be at the Oaks Convention Center this weekend.
Oh, right. I forgot about that. Yeah.
So if anybody's in the area and wants to come say hi, welcome aboard.
Yeah.
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