Todd Rundgren | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
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How did Todd Rundgren’s early relationship with Albert Grossman shape his career?
To me, you know, in the strictest sense, you know, a song has a story to it.
You're such a distinctive artist in your own right. And you have really unique production style, but always in service to the artist. For me, it was
music was all that mattered. I was just music, music all the time.
The myth, the legend,
you see. When I started making my own music, I never had to worry about whether it would sell or not. That
record was the first time I personally registered like, wow, this guy did all this on his own.
I loved being a part of it, and it never left me. But do you
have a foundational songwriting ethos? Throw it all against the wall, you know. See what's big. Todd Rundgren, thank you for being here today. I want to start with Albert Grossman. I thought that was a good place to dive in. Whoa. If you don't mind. No, you can start there. Sure. You seem to have a good relationship with him overall. Is that a fair thing?
Well, it was. Albert was a very strange kind of guy. Yeah. He could be really great sometimes, really great for you. And then I think, I don't know whether most people are familiar with his, you know, odyssey with Bob Dylan, but he managed Bob Dylan for a while. And then Bob left the Grossman organization, whatever. And then for years and years and years after, Albert would take Bob to court to try and win back more publishing money. And that was kind of the way he was. He could be a great supporter of you, but if he thought your relationship with him was over, Then the gloves came
off.
Ah, I see. And I recall that I was at the end of my contractual obligation to Bearsville Records. And the last record that I delivered under that contract was called Acapella. Is that
where it was only just your voice, right?
Yeah, everything was all the sound. I
got that record when it came out.
Vocal sound. Full
disclosure, yeah.
And I delivered the record, you know, and I was prepared to move on, find another record deal or something like that. And Albert refused to release it. And he gave me this excuse that Warner Brothers didn't like the record because Warner was the distributor. And this went on for months and months and months. You know, I said, what's going on with this? Finally, I recall the moment. I was driving up the New Jersey Thruway. the palace age, I think it was. And I was so frustrated, I pulled over to a phone booth and I called Mo Austin. And I said, what's the problem with the record? You know, why wouldn't you use the record? He said, you got a record. It was just one of Albert's ruses, something like that, in order to get more out of me, even though it was time for me to leave because my publishing was tied to the record contract.
I see. And so what he did was he essentially got me over a barrel and said, all right, I will free you and you can sign with Warner Brothers. I'll negotiate a three-album deal with Warner Brothers and I'll get the publishing for the three-album deal with Warner Brothers. So yeah, he could be great. For instance, when I put out this album called The Wizard of True Star, which was this crazy thing that I, from a career standpoint, shouldn't have done. But yeah. He was just incredibly supportive. It was a weird record, and he sometimes liked weird things, you know. He sometimes liked to tweak people. And I think he saw that record as just, in some ways, musically legitimate, but also it was just a big tweak at everybody, you know.
Yeah, so you kind of enter his world as an engineer. They brought you to Bearsville College.
Yeah, it was an interesting transition for me because my first band, The Naz, that only lasted about 18 months, and it was like this whirlwind of showbiz kind of bullshit and stuff like that. In other words, first of all, We were just a local band in Philadelphia. And I put together like what was a local super group because I stole people from all the other popular bands in downtown Philly. And the guys who owned the local record store wanted to manage us, and they gave us a house to live in, stuff like that. One day, The Who comes to play in town, and we hear that they're staying at the Holiday Inn downtown.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
How did Todd Rundgren’s early relationship with Albert Grossman shape his career?
0:00–10:13
2
What was the story behind the “Acapella” record and Albert Grossman’s hold on it?
10:13–23:25
3
How did Todd’s first band experiences in Philadelphia lead to his first major break?
23:25–35:34
4
What songwriting formula did Todd use on *Something/Anything?* and why did he later reject it?
35:34–46:49
5
How did the creation of *A Wizard, A True Star* change Todd’s artistic freedom?
46:49–57:58
6
What is Todd’s philosophy on producing for other artists versus his own music?
57:58–1:08:44
7
How does Todd view the rise of AI tools for music creation and search?
1:08:44–1:17:46
8
What can fans expect from Todd’s upcoming “Damned If I Do” tour?
1:17:46–1:34:46
Speakers
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