Episode 31 - Tom Hart
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This is Interrupted by Matt Jones on NewsRadio 840 WHAS. Now, here's Matt Jones.
It is episode 31 of Interrupted by Matt Jones, and we are excited to have one of my favorite people, maybe my favorite person in sports media now. I could say outside of my crew, probably the person that I get along with the most is Tom Hart of ESPN, and I realized you hadn't been on here yet, which kind of surprised me. So thanks for joining us this week.
Happy to do it and happy to know that somehow I leapfrogged Dan Dockage for that honor.
Yeah, you are in front of Dan Dockage. Although I will say, Dan Dockage said something nice, has checked a couple times on my dad, which is nice. I saw him at the Super Bowl, and I don't think I'm speaking out of school to say this, but he came up to me and he said, I said, you know what? Thank you very much for what you said about my dad.
Who is Tom Hart and what is his background in sports media?
And he goes, you know, a lot of people don't realize this, but, you know, life is more important than politics. And I was like, I feel like most people realize that. I mean, I feel like that goes without saying, I would hope, but he did have nice words.
Who is your least favorite person in media, in sports media? Who would be on your Mount Rushmore?
Well, before he said that about my dad, he would have been towards the top. I now can't say that. I think my least favorite are the people that I think are frauds. I don't want to make you have to comment on this, but people I know are not true versions of themselves. So Clay Travis is probably my least favorite because I know he's full of it. I don't know that there's anyone, I can't think, in sports. You know, the thing is, Tom, by not knowing anyone, it makes it easy. Like, you know more people than I do, so you probably dislike more people.
You're insulated. I actually remember one of the first times we had an in-depth conversation, Matt, was in Omaha at the College World Series. Yes, and Kentucky wasn't playing.
I just went as a fan.
Right. And one of the discussions we had was that you guys as a group, and maybe you specifically specifically, had this – and this was kind of the barstool guys back in the beginning. Like, you could attack authority. Yeah. And then the more successful you get – Much harder. And the closer you get to the authority and the more money that comes in, you go, ooh, but that guy's a buddy of mine, or I run in those circles, and maybe I shouldn't offend. Well, for me, it's not the money.
For me, it's not the money. It's just – Well, first of all, I had this conversation with PFT. They used to attack everybody. And now they have all those people on their show. It's harder when you meet people because you start to learn that no one's perfect. I still feel like I will attack almost anyone if I think they're a bad person. But I guess, Tom, as I've gotten older, I think less people are bad people. I think people are complicated, so they have good traits and bad traits. You know what I mean? Yeah.
So even the frauds and hypocrites are complicated?
Clay Travis is an interesting example because I think his entire public persona is fraudulent. He is not the person he says he is. But at the same time, when I knew Clay, I didn't think he was a bad person. He was just obsessed with money and success to the point that he created a new version of reality. But he may be that guy now. He just wasn't. original sure you know so maybe he's not a fraud anymore he's just a jerk you know I don't know
I see that to an extent on the game calling side and some of the sports I'm involved with. There are people who kind of filter down to the college sports landscape. I grew up a huge college sports fan. I love my job. I think you know that about me. Would I say no to the NBA or NFL? No, I'd go do it. But I love going to the places I go because that was my dream as a kid. There's so much opportunity now involved, specifically in the SEC, but throughout college football, that people kind of filter down to it. And it's a job instead of a passion. And there's nothing wrong with that.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–0:56
2
Who is Tom Hart and what is his background in sports media?
0:56–5:12
3
What insights does Tom Hart share about the challenges of sports broadcasting?
5:12–8:12
4
How does Tom Hart view the evolution of college sports commentary?
8:12–14:44
5
What experiences shaped Tom Hart's perspective on play-by-play announcing?
14:44–22:11
6
What unique challenges did Tom Hart face while calling Korean baseball?
22:11–28:00
7
How does Tom Hart connect with the Kentucky fanbase during broadcasts?
28:00–34:14
8
What lessons has Tom Hart learned from his experiences in sports commentary?
34:14–1:02:02