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Chapter 1: Why is rock music considered to be disappearing?
As you may have noticed recently on the show, we've started to focus more on cultural commentary, a little less on politics. And the reason for that is partly if I'm being totally transparent, I find the entire political podcasting space to be increasingly boring and redundant. Everyone's saying the same things. Everyone is talking about the same stories.
Conservative podcasters all repeat essentially the same basic talking points unless they're fighting with each other, which is even more boring and at this point even more redundant. So I find it all incredibly uninspiring and uninteresting. which is enough reason to try to find different things to talk about. Also, culture matters.
And that's why cultural commentary has really always been my primary focus. All I'm doing now is kind of doubling down on it. Culture is the shared traditions and heritage and values and artistic output of a given group of people. It shouldn't need to be explained why that matters. And if that doesn't matter, then it's hard to see how anything could possibly matter.
The problem in our culture is not so much that it's turning bad or being corrupted, although there is certainly plenty of that happening. It's more that the culture is disappearing. It's being erased. American culture is vanishing.
So on that note today, I want to take a look at something that used to be a hugely influential, unique, and distinctly American element of our culture, which in recent years has all but evaporated. And that would be rock music. Now, I have some personal ties to this issue. Long before I became a podcaster with my very own fancy fish cam in the early 2000s, I was a small market rock DJ.
It's not something I talk about very often, although every now and then various media outlets like to bring it up. But today I'm going to make an exception because I now realize that in that capacity, I witnessed the last gasps of the entire genre of rock and roll. I saw firsthand how it entered a slow motion death spiral. It would never recover for reasons that no one has ever really explained.
A cultural institution, a global phenomenon, one that is distinctly American, has essentially vanished. So how exactly did that happen? Whatever your personal musical tastes happen to be, This matters because, again, culture matters. And when a pillar of American culture just fades into oblivion, seemingly out of nowhere, it's worth talking about and trying to figure out why.
So let's do that now. Now to start with, let's establish the premise. Rock music is dead. The data makes it very clear that I'm not overstating the case here. The genre basically doesn't exist anymore, certainly not in the mainstream anyway. If you pull up the Billboard year-end Hot 100 singles of 1996, here's what you'll see when you look at it.
There are better years in the 90s to illustrate the point that I'm trying to make, but I'm taking this one because it was exactly 30 years ago. As you can see, there's plenty of rock here, including Counting Blue Cars by Dishwalla, The World I Know by Collective Soul, Wonderwall by Oasis, Hook by Blues Traveler, Just a Girl by No Doubt, Until It Sleeps by Metallica.
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Chapter 2: What personal experiences shaped the host's view on rock music?
Rock music has died as a genre. I mean, it's just undeniable when you look at the data, just that's the fact. A thing that once defined American culture is now no longer even a part of it. The question of why is a lot more difficult to figure out. One possible theory is related to the decline of the monoculture, which I've discussed on the show in the past.
There are now so many different streaming platforms and so much variety in content that it's become very difficult, if not impossible, for this country to have a shared cultural experience anymore. I mean, there really isn't one. There are plenty of high-quality bands and movies and albums that can be very successful and profitable, and yet most of the country hasn't even heard of them.
By contrast, at the time of the British invasion and for several decades afterward, people had very few options for discovering new music. They learned about bands from a small number of networks, particularly late-night television, magazines, radio stations. When The Beatles appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show in February of 1964, more than 73 million people were watching.
More than 73 million people in the United States. That's roughly 40% of the population of the entire country at the time were watching this one performance live while it happened. Other than the Super Bowl, no other cultural event gets anywhere near that kind of viewership today, not as a percent of the population. Here's what it looked like to give you an idea.
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Now, the modern comparison, unfortunately, would be somebody like Justin Bieber. He just headlined Coachella. Obviously, he's one of the most popular entertainers in the world. According to Billboard, Bieber's set, quote, drew more than 100 million social impressions between the two weekends that he performed.
But those social media impressions, whatever that means exactly, were spread out over the entire world. And also, social media impressions don't really mean anything because people are... That just means that somebody engaged with it or saw it in their feed for a few seconds, and it was sandwiched in between a bunch of other content. They probably forgot they even saw it.
Not the same thing as 40% of the country sitting down at the exact same time to watch an entire performance live on TV. If the internet existed when the Beatles were popular, they'd... If you were to try to translate the numbers, they would easily exceed those numbers. They already exceeded 70 million viewers in just one country on TV.
Now everybody has a phone and a TV, and they're all watching 10 different things, often at the same time, which is one of the reasons that no one band can repeat the Beatles' success. Late night shows and MTV have been replaced.
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Chapter 3: How has the mainstream music landscape changed over the years?
Music radio, which used to shape taste and introduce you to new and especially local bands, no longer exists. Now, the point is that we all used to be a part of the same culture, the same zeitgeist. Young people had different tastes from older people. That's always been the case. But everybody was swimming in the same cultural pool.
Now there are a million pools, or perhaps more like puddles, and everybody's sort of splashing around in their own, disconnected from the others. And all of that is determined by the algorithms. The fracturing of the monoculture helps to explain not just the death of rock music, but of every other once mighty aspect of American culture.
All that stuff has been taken down because the monoculture went down. But the decline of the monoculture isn't a sufficient explanation for the end of rock music in particular, because as we already established, some genres of music are still thriving, arguably, anyway. Not to the extent that they used to be. I mean, even in other genres, there's no one.
I mean, the Michael Jackson movie is out right now. Not much of a Michael Jackson fan myself. But there's no one today who can compete. with the star power that Michael Jackson had. It just doesn't exist. I mean, the closest you get is somebody like Taylor Swift, and it's just not the same thing at all. I mean, Michael Jackson could go literally anywhere in the world.
He could go to a tribe somewhere in some third world country in a jungle, and they would know who he was. And that kind of thing doesn't exist anymore. So you can't use that alone to explain why rock music has died. There has to be another factor or set of factors to explain what's going on here.
On his YouTube channel, Rick Beato suggested another way of looking at the problem, which is to zoom out a little bit. Instead of focusing on the end of rock music, we should try to figure out why bands in general of all genres are dying out. Watch.
If you go to the top 50 chart right now in the U.S., you have Sabrina Carpenter, you have Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars, you have Jimin, you have Chapel Roan, Billie Eilish, Post Malone, Morgan Wallen, Shibuzee, Kendrick Lamar, Tommy Richmond, Hosier. Zach Bryan, Casey Musgraves, Benson Boone, Teddy Swims. It's just literally all solo artists.
So next as an experiment, I put together a list of the top 400 artists in ranking of monthly listeners on Spotify. And I looked to see how many bands on there were created in the last 10 years. Take a guess, how many? You might think, oh, I don't know, 25 bands, something like that in the top 400 has to be a lot, right? It's actually only three.
Only three bands in the top 400 artists on Spotify have formed within the last 10 years. Three.
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Chapter 4: What evidence shows the decline of rock music in popular charts?
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I mean, at least not a, I mean that year that came out with like four different movies about asteroids hitting the earth, but it was not a preexisting IP is the point. So a movie that's a huge hit, not a preexisting IP with a song on the soundtrack that becomes utterly ubiquitous. None of that happens anymore.
But as tempting as it would be to blame writers for what happened to Rock music, the truth is there's plenty of other factors at play. And I don't intend this to be a political monologue exclusively, but it's hard to ignore the fact that Rock's decline was cemented during the presidency of Barack Obama. It's become something of a meme to blame Barack Obama for everything.
Thanks, Obama, being the operative phrase. But in this case, unironically, there's genuinely a reason to blame him. There's a genuine reason to blame him for a lot of stuff, and this included. I've made the case before that the culture peaked in 2007 and across all the different artistic genres and mediums and has been declining ever since.
And I'm not going to repeat that whole case, but I think you can see it if you look at it. And it's no coincidence that who was elected, whose presidency began in 2008, Barack Obama. In the case of Rock, it's obvious. I mean, Rock's all about rebellion. It's about raging against the machine. And raging against the machine became unacceptable the moment the machine was run by a black leftist.
Look what happened to Green Day, for example. Not long after Barack Obama took office, they stopped singing about politics all the time, went back to breakup songs. Then when Trump won, They began singing explicitly about the MAGA agenda, making it clear that they're shills for the Democrat Party. Pearl Jam began performing at fundraisers for Obama.
System of a Down took a conveniently timed hiatus from criticizing the establishment once Obama became president. This is not a phenomenon that's unique to rock. Of course, comedy died at roughly the same time for the same reason. When people listen to you because they think that you're authentic and bold, and then you immediately begin and transgressive,
Then you immediately begin carrying water for an extremely powerful establishment figure because he's black and liberal. You lose all credibility. You might as well shut it down at that point. Even the rock musicians who did criticize Obama ultimately turned out to be shills for the establishment. Rage Against the Machine is one of the best examples.
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Chapter 5: How do cultural shifts impact the popularity of music genres?
Now, what do these teenagers do instead? Well, they dream about becoming streamers and YouTubers now, not rock stars. This is probably the first generation in 70 years where the average white 15-year-old boy doesn't daydream of becoming a rock star. And it's not hard to see why. Take a look at this list from the New York Times, which supposedly lists the top 30 living American songwriters.
This list just came out this week. And here's what they have on the list. Jay-Z, Young Thug, Kendrick Lamar, Outkast, Missy Elliott, Mariah Carey, The Dream, Bad Bunny, These are the top songwriters, living songwriters, again. American songwriters. Bad Bunny's not even American.
Anyway, Babyface, Stevie Wonder, Nile Rodgers, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Smokey Robinson, Lionel Richie, Taylor Swift, Lana Del Rey, Dolly Parton, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Paul Simon, Carole King, Willie Nelson, Dan Warren, Fiona Apple, Lucinda Williams, Romeo Santos, Valerie Simpson, Brian and Eddie Holland, uh, Josh Osborne, Brandy Clark, and Shane McAnally. We remember Shane McAnally.
He's the guy that purchased the baby and has been emotionally abusing the child on social media for clicks. So this is a
An atrocious joke of a list for a bunch of reasons, starting with the fact that it almost completely leaves out modern American folk and Americana, which are actually vibrant and eclectic genres still today, where most of the best songwriting is being done right now, and it has been done historically. It's mostly just pop and rap and that sort of thing.
To the extent that they have any rock musicians at all, it feels like a hedge. They're all from the 1970s. This is what's promoted now in every major venue. This is what young people are seeing. It's no wonder they don't want any part of it. The same is true with the Super Bowl halftime shows. There hasn't been a rock band featured this decade at all.
Last one was Maroon 5, which was more pop than rock. That was in 2019. And ever since Jay-Z took over the Super Bowl halftime show, they've barely had any white people on stage at all. Other than Eminem, they haven't had any white headliners. Now, to be clear, my intention is not to complain that good music doesn't exist anymore or that good rock music can never exist again. Maybe it can.
And there is good music being made. But the fact remains that the popular genres have all been urbanized and dumbed down and they've all kind of fused together. And music critics are cowards who think that if they're listing top living songwriters, then two thirds of the list have to be black people. Even if that means including Missy Elliott, for example, who had like one hit 30 years ago.
And even some of the iconic musicians they list are all a lot more left wing than they were in their primes. No young person looks up to Bruce Springsteen anymore for this exact reason. He's best known today as a dumb, whiny leftist who reads the talking points from the DNC. What we've learned is that rock musicians, unfortunately, get lamer and gayer as they age.
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