Ep. 886: Who Was the Real Johnny Appleseed?
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but I don't know about. No, you probably know the Disney-fied version. You know the version that they teach you in elementary school. But he is an American legend, but he was a real guy. His name was John Chapman. That's one of the things I love about him. When I first brought it up to the woman that's now my wife, I was thinking about writing a book about him. I said, Johnny Appleseed, he was this great walker. He was kind of into faith. I'm kind of coming back into faith a little bit in my life. And she was like, he's not a real dude yeah and she's like paul bunyan paco spill and i was like those are real guys yeah i was like those are not real dudes you're right you're right but johnny appleseed was a real guy named john chapman born around the revolutionary war so i wanted to kind of walk where he walked and explore the country um i want to start out by telling you might not realize who you're in the presence of this is um johnny johnny spencer or you could call him spencer appleseed yeah
tell him he's an tell him he's an aspiring you know i want to start an orchard uh i set aside my whole spring i didn't do any hunting this year whoa just so i could focus on planting i planted 60 fruit trees dwarf fruit trees and fruit shrubs in my yard
That's amazing. One, I want to just say, I love that we have like a fact checker here on the podcast. That's helpful. Oh, you don't even know that. But two, were you planting seeds or were you grafting?
I have not done any grafting. It's a mixture of things. So there's stuff that was done by like... Bare Root, which comes out of a cellar at the nursery, up to the biggest thing being an eight-foot-tall pear tree. That's incredible. It's just a variety of stuff. I didn't even know he was doing this. When I heard he was doing it, I was like, hey, we got a dude coming on to talk all about that. I said, you should be in there. Very excited.
Can I ask, what gave you the love of your hunter? To take off a full season is a lot.
Well, I like foraging and now I don't have to leave to do it. I can just do it in my backyard. I also like the idea of perennials rather than annuals. I feel like the gardeners in the office here, which there are many of, they talk about it with more frustration than love. Yeah. You disagree. Oh, no. OK. I garden from a place of anger. That's what I have witnessed. And so I'm like, I don't want to be the one who's mad that my tomatoes froze on June 4th. I would rather just like put a perennial on the ground and then it's like going to keep doing its thing. And I don't have to be the one. who gets mad every year when it doesn't. You'll find plenty of reasons to get mad.
I will get mad. But you're trying to start from a place of joy. You're trying to start from a place... But what you said earlier, too, is you like gathering, but now you want to do it from your backyard.
Who was Johnny Appleseed and what is his real story?
That's why most people start... A little more farming, a little more harvesting, a little more seasonal, which is what Chapman did himself.
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Chapters
8 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–4:04
2
Who was Johnny Appleseed and what is his real story?
4:04–7:21
3
How did Johnny Appleseed influence American culture?
7:21–13:52
4
What role did land speculation play in Johnny Appleseed's life?
13:52–18:28
5
What were Johnny Appleseed's religious beliefs?
18:28–23:10
6
How did Johnny Appleseed contribute to the War of 1812?
23:10–25:52
7
What is the myth versus reality of Johnny Appleseed's legacy?
25:52–29:37
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How did cider and apples shape American history?
29:37–1:35:50
Speakers
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