The Megyn Kelly Show
BREAKING: Alleged January 6 Pipe Bomber Arrested, and Trump on "Garbage" Somalia, with Michael Knowles and Julie Kelly | Ep. 1206
04 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is the breaking news about the January 6 pipe bomber arrest?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. There is breaking news right now on a big story we just discussed on this program yesterday.
A major arrest, Brian Cole of Virginia, is now reportedly in custody for allegedly planting the pipe bombs outside of both the Democratic National Committee headquarters and the Republican National Committee headquarters in Washington, D.C., on the night of January 5th, 2021. Law enforcement activity was seen at what is believed to be his home this morning.
We are showing video here on our screen from Fox News, which just says law enforcement and police tape outside of this home. The arrest comes nearly five years after the incident in a high profile case that has befuddled law enforcement for years. But we don't understand why. We've never understood why this case was so seemingly impossible to crack.
It's unclear what exact charges this Brian Cole faces. We're expecting an FBI press conference later this afternoon. We are told it could happen within the hour. We are monitoring it and we'll bring it to you if and when it happens. Here in the meantime is the FBI previously explaining what happened when those bombs were placed that night.
The suspect's height is approximately 5 foot 7 inches tall. The suspect wore a face mask, a gray hooded sweatshirt, and black gloves. They used a backpack to transport each of the devices. They were wearing distinctive Nike Air Max Speed Turf shoes, which are black and gray with the yellow Nike logo.
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Chapter 2: What details are known about the suspect Brian Cole?
Fewer than 25,000 of these shoes were sold between August 2018 and January 2021. The first time the suspect is seen is at approximately 7.34 PM at the intersection of First Street and North Carolina Avenue Southeast. This footage shows the suspect sitting on the DNC bench before placing the first bomb Here we see the suspect place the bomb at approximately 7.54 p.m.
They place the second pipe bomb at approximately 8.16 p.m. The suspect then turns back onto Rumsey Court, walking east until the person is last seen on camera at approximately 8.18pm, wearing the backpack on their shoulders. The bomb is believed to have been placed shortly before this video, based on how the suspect is carrying the backpack.
According to the New York Times, the break in the case was not thanks to a new tip or any additional information. I mean, that's remarkable. What they're reporting is that they discovered a new lead within the FBI after reviewing previously compiled investigative files.
As the new leadership team there, FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino have made solving this case a priority. Dan Bongino, when he was a podcast host, had said for a long, long time that he believed this case was solvable. He also theorized that it might be an inside job by law enforcement.
But he'd long been saying this is solvable and had been asking questions about why it hadn't been solved. And now here they are six months in power and appearing to have solved it. This is, let's see, from the Washington Post this morning.
They give some background saying more about how this is not based on a new breakthrough, but that the FBI sources have been going through the voluminous trove of material largely collected in 2021 and 2022. They write, the suspect's arrest is expected to cause significant embarrassment for the Bureau and the enormous team it assigned to the pipe bomb investigation, the two sources said.
Not meaning Cash and Dan's team, meaning the team that was there under previous leadership, saying the suspect could have been arrested years ago if investigators had earlier connected the dots they already had in hand.
This is the Washington Post writing, quote, this development could also be seen as vindication of Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino, who has long focused on the pipe bomb case and has urged the Bureau to redouble its efforts to solve it when he took efforts. Wow, that must have been hard for you to write, Carol Lenning. Let's see. Timing of the arrest comes as Kash Patel's under fire.
The suspect placed the pipe bombs the night before January 6th. They were discovered 15 hours later on the day of January 6th. This is one of the largest cases in the Bureau's history. The FBI subpoenaed box store retailers for credit card transaction data to obtain the identities of people who bought the kind of battery connectors they thought were used in the bombs. They were actual bombs.
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Chapter 3: What has led to the recent developments in the investigation?
Normally, all that would have been breaking already. Although, can I tell you, it's very possible that the FBI has had a few days to scrub anything that they don't want out there immediately from the internet, as law enforcement typically does.
Correct. So I'm sure we will get some of those answers. But again, I mean, since this is such a cold, really was a cold case for years, to your point, almost five years ago that this happened. You know, if this person felt like they were surrounding him, that his days were numbered, I'm sure he would have. scrubbed whatever he needed to from his own social media, computer, et cetera.
Of course, easy to retrieve that.
There's been not a hint that an arrest was coming in this case. You know, we had the blaze report, which we just discussed on Kelly's court yesterday on saying it was a woman who was a female law enforcement agent retired. And we just discussed whether the blaze is going to get sued by that woman who, according to CBS has an alibi showing her on camera with her puppies during the
hour that those bombs were placed on j5 and um but the fbi has not like there'd been no report at all that they'd identified this person in fact if if brian cole really is the guy he was probably sitting there reading that blaze report going great i'm off the hook yeah So I'm just saying, if they've known about this guy for days or weeks, they did a very good job of keeping it extremely quiet.
Very true. I mean, I know that after that Blaze report came out, Dan Bongino posted something, I think it was a few days later, basically debunking that, dismissing that report, that very sketchy report. Not sure why that was ever published, but there definitely will be repercussions. As you said, the woman who they identified as an attorney called this false information.
defamatory, they might've been waiting for an arrest before they file a lawsuit against certain reporters, online influencers, and the blaze. We are expecting that lawsuit really any time. So, um, yes, but this has been very close hold except for say, uh, Dan Bongino posting that also cash has said in a few recent interviews that there was going to be some big news coming. on this investigation.
So we weren't sure if that meant they were just going to give us new details. There was some talk about increasing the reward. To your point, they did repost the video at the end of October and added some new footage, apparently. So we know that this has been a top priority. We know that it has been a focus.
But yes, I think it came to a lot of people as a surprise the past today that there was an arrest made.
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Chapter 4: How are political narratives surrounding the arrest evolving?
You're not allowed to say it, though, because they're black. And under New York Times and NPR rules, they can't be criticized.
Well, in that case, then I'll turn our attention to people who are not black but only slightly brown, because I think it clarifies it too. When J.D. Vance was doing that famous interview in which he was arguing over importing Afghanis, and the liberal interviewer kept giving all of these justifications for doing it, and he said, look, frankly, Margaret, I don't care.
I don't want these people in my country. And he was truly the voice of the American people in particular at that moment. And he was ultimately tragically proven right just the day before Thanksgiving when the Afghan supposed refugees and allies shot two of our National Guardsmen. J.D.
Vance was just reacting to the fact that our supposed Afghan allies and refugees plotted a terror attack on Election Day of 2024. And so you can give all of the justifications in the world.
oh dubious though they may be on why we really must to bring in afghanis and somalis and people who are very very difficult to assimilate from third world dangerous places who pose a real threat to the american political order and to americans in a very direct way you can you can come up with all those rationalizations you want but frankly margaret we don't care we don't want those people in the country we we're americans
And we have a right to our own country. We're supposedly a self-government here. Don't you guys always exalt our sacred democracy? Well, look, if we don't have a right to determine who comes in, who milks the taxpayer money, hitting the dole and welfare, who...
ultimately get on the voter rolls and certainly whose children get on the voter rolls and who fundamentally transform our government and our political society, then you know what? We don't have a country and we don't have a democracy. We don't have anything like it. So you can come up with all the explanations you want as to how Somalia is so great and it's just been misunderstood for eternity.
But frankly, Margaret, we don't care. And that message is the one that's going to resonate.
Frankly, Margaret, we don't give a damn. Back to the bombing of that drug vessel that came in. They're having a hearing on it right now with Admiral Bradley, the guy who gave the order, and Dan Raisin-Kane, chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Listen to what Senator Tom Cotton just says after having seen the video of the actual strike, the whole thing. Watch.
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Chapter 5: What cultural criticisms are made regarding immigration?
You lost. The mistake that you made is you let us in in the first place. There's a bunch of us. And we breed. We're a breeding people. And the problem is you let us in in 1965. There were a few of us beforehand. But once you let one of us in, you know what happens with brown folks?
Our grandmother comes, our grandfather comes, our uncle comes, our aunt comes, our cousin comes, our second cousin comes, our third cousin comes. Then we have kids, a bunch of kids. And then guess what? Some white women, you know, the Western civilization women, the pure women, the American women, quote unquote, the Rust Belt women, the real women. They like some of us brown folks.
We don't take them. They come to us. So we're embedded. We are everywhere. I want you to realize this. You have lost everything. Your story is a shitty story filled with misery. It's it's it's filled with bland chicken. It's filled with terrible, terrible, dry ass meat. Your music sucks. All your culture sucks. Nobody. That's why the kids like listen to black people and their music.
That's why the kids love Latinos. Your party suck because they're monochromatic. Our parties have better food, better music, better looking women.
then get out and go back to Pakistan since you seem to love it so much. No one will miss you. This is the son of two Pakistani Muslim immigrants.
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Chapter 6: How is the alleged January 6 pipe bomber's background discussed?
He was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area. He studied at University of California, Berkeley. He got a law degree from the University of California, Davis. He's written for the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Atlantic. CNN is an opinion contributor. And that's his thanks to this country that has given him so much, given him his world-class education, put him on TV.
Obviously, he's a man of means, is to tell us we Americans actually suck. Our country sucks. Our culture sucks. We can't cook. He wants to take our women, the white women, is that what he means? uh, and make them what, like they want to use the white women to make more little Pakistanis. Okay, great. See how that works out for you. Waja hot.
Um, and by the way, his parents are a couple of hot messes. Uh, I had it in front of me the other day, but they, they're, they're ex cons. I'm going to get my facts, but they're ex cons and they're deeply troubled. Hold on. Here it is. This is what he comes from. This guy who wants to judge the rest of us is like cultureless and problematic. Stand by, I'll get it.
Soon after 9-11, his parents, who sold academic software, were arrested and imprisoned for mail fraud, wire fraud, and other counts as part of a large Microsoft anti-piracy criminal indictment. They spent nearly five years in prison. What does he say about it now? He says they were targeted for being brown, Michael Knowles. They went, they had a trial.
They went to prison for five years and he wants to say it's down to skin color. And you know what that gets you? A job at the Times and an opinion writing gig at CNN.
I find the clip delightful for this reason, Megan, actually. Because the words, they got clipped out. Obviously, it's a much, much longer clip, so you only heard the highlights. But he says there, he says, white people, you lost. And we brown people won. That's always the framing here. That's why he's talking about the white women and the brown people.
He says, we Pakistanis were a breeding people, which if we were to be specific, we would probably have to say inbreeding people because of the extraordinarily high rates of cousin marriage. Though maybe that's a conversation for another time. It's a thing. Yeah. Sure. He makes the point, though.
He says, look, I, Wajahat Ali, view politics as a battle between the white people and the brown people, and we brown people are going to win. We're going to beat you. And by the way, your country sucks and everything about your culture sucks. It's kind of funny because that last bit raises the question. You say, well, can't help but notice you keep coming here.
You know, there's no crisis of mass migration to Pakistan. It all seems to be going in the other direction.
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Chapter 7: What evidence led to the arrest of the January 6 pipe bomber?
These Somalians have taken billions of dollars out of our country. They've taken billions and billions of dollars. They have a representative, Ilhan Omar, who they say married her brother It's a fraud. She tries to deny it now, but you can't really deny it because, you know, it just happened. She shouldn't be allowed to be a congresswoman, and I'm sure people are looking at that.
And she should be thrown the hell out of our country.
The Somalians should be out of here. They've destroyed our country. And all they do is complain, complain, complain. You have her. She's always talking about the Constitution provides me with...
Go back to your own country and figure out your constitution. All she does is complain about this country. So Somalia is considered by many to be the worst country on earth. I don't know. I haven't been there. I won't be there anytime soon. I hope.
I love him. I love him.
Where is he wrong? Like, truly, where is he wrong? She did bury her brother, by the way. It hasn't been confirmed. But there's been reporting that they went in-depth on this and could not disprove it. That, if memory serves, was the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which is a far-left newspaper, which would have had every incentive... to disprove it. If they could, they could not disprove it.
If you wanted to disprove that I married my brother, it would be very easy to take you about 30 seconds.
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of the FBI's investigation results?
The fact that they couldn't disprove it is deeply problematic. She did it not to get herself in the country who she was brought when she was younger, but to get him into the country. Um, She's out there just for a little bit more color on it, Michael.
Of course, the reason we're talking about Somalia is because these Somalis who are now living in Minneapolis, who've taken over that city, have committed all that fraud that I mentioned in my sheet, like 78 of the 86 people arrested for scamming the government out of over a billion dollars in welfare checks.
Our Somalis are sending these checks back home, including to al-Shabaab, the terrorist group, according to City Journal. And now Trump's trying to get rid of them. Anybody who's not a natural born citizen doing this. And and here's Ilhan Omar giving an interview to Jake Tapper, I think it was. Listen to what she has to say about that scam by her fellow Somalis.
Wash to 73 is what I'm hearing.
OK, can you shed any light on why the fraud got so out of control in Minnesota?
I think what happened is that, you know, when when you have these kind of new programs that are designed to help people, you're oftentimes relying on third parties to be able to facilitate. And I just think that a lot of the COVID programs that were set up, they were set up so quickly that a lot of the guardrails did not get created.
It was the guardrails. In the same way, if you drive your Porsche 150 miles an hour down the highway and you go off an embankment, it's the fault of the guardrails for not being able to stop you. It's not your fault.
You know, I think COVID-8 or homework, I think this is so, it shows you that there is no defense for this whatsoever. That Ilhan Omar, oh no, it was these, there were these programs and, you know, it was a really unfortunate, I mean, it was, you know, it rained that day. And also, I forget the power went out. And so it was all a big mess. Hold on, you're telling me.
systemic community-wide fraud to the tune of an insane amount of money from the taxpayers going to fund, in part, terrorists overseas. That was all just like a big mistake. It was all just a big misunderstanding. Guardrails. If only we had the guardrails. This is what Trump was talking about.
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