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Dems Struggle to Connect with Men, and Diddy's Former Assistant Speaks, with Batya Ungar-Sargon, Viva Frei, and Phil Holloway | Ep. 1081

Tue, 27 May 2025 20:03:44 +0000

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Megyn Kelly is joined by Batya Ungar-Sargon, 2Way host and author of "Second Class," to discuss President Trump fighting Gov. Gavin Newsom on the issue of men and boys playing in female sports, how the elites who pushed the radical trans ideology are losing, Trump’s effect on bringing the working class over to the GOP, how predominantly Latino and black counties are shifting red, the "triple trending" counties trend that should worry Democrats, how Democrats are spending millions to study "syntax" so they can learn how to talk to men, their attempt to demonize masculinity that has backfired, and more. Then attorneys Viva Frei and Phil Holloway join to discuss the shocking testimony from Diddy’s former longtime assistant today, the disturbing violence she says she witnessed while working for him and alarming behavior, whether the prosecution is proving its case of criminality, why Diddy may get convicted on lesser charges, how the Diddy defense team is attempting to undermine the witnesses, the new details of the Bryan Kohberger case revealed in the latest episode of Dateline, whether the revelations might delay the trial, who could have leaked the info to Dateline, Taylor Swift's involvement in the Baldoni-Lively case, and more.Holloway- https://x.com/PhilHollowayEsqFrei- https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/Ungar-Sargon- https://www.amazon.com/Second-Class-Betrayed-Americas-Working/dp/1641773618Everglades Foundation: Learn more about President Trump’s Everglades support project at https://www.EvergladesFoundation.orgByrna: Go to https://Byrna.com and order their all new Compact Launcher.Hungryroot: https://Hungryroot.com/MK | Get 40% off your first box PLUS a free item in every box for life!Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on goldFollow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow

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Chapter 1: What are the Democrats spending $20 million on?

3015.834 - 3032.265 Megyn Kelly

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3072.988 - 3104.715 Megyn Kelly

Burna, non-lethal self-defense, always ready. Just wanted to give you a little update on my tax numbers. I did look it up. The bottom half in terms of earnings pay 2.3% of federal taxes. The top 1% pay about 50%, 45.8% in federal taxes, even though they earned 22% of the revenue but paid more than double that. The top 10% pay 72% of all federal taxes.

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3104.755 - 3126.019 Megyn Kelly

In 2021, it was closer to 76% of all federal taxes. And the problem with just lowering the corporate tax is it doesn't help individuals who file as S corporations. Like a big corporation, you know, like a Google, that's a C corporation. But the smaller businesses tend to file as S corporations, in which case the income passes through to the individual. Then you have to pay individual taxes.

3126.219 - 3148.03 Megyn Kelly

So it's... That is who the Republicans raise every time somebody tries to increase taxes and just says tax the rich. I can speak to this as a business owner. That's how I do it too. And it's not that I want to punish anybody working for me, but when you're running a business, you don't make your bottom line take the hit. You decide to scale up your efficiencies.

3148.41 - 3166.823 Megyn Kelly

And that either means not hiring a new person that you were going to hire or in the worst case scenario, firing somebody who's already on board because they have a budget to make. And you don't alter your budget by just saying, oh, we'll make less profit. We'll get a narrower margin. You tend to figure out, how can I lower my expenses? And that would include staff.

3166.903 - 3184.097 Megyn Kelly

And it's not just for my company. It's for every company that's a smaller company. So in any event, that's the argument. I get that it works the other way. And people love to say tax the rich is a very popular thing to do. And I understand why so many Democrats and now Republicans and Trump

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have held it out there, but I don't think it's going to happen because there's too many Republicans who feel about it the way I do. I don't think he has the votes to push that through. In any event, okay, she's not wrong that it's a very politically savvy thing to say. Okay, we got to do Kelly's court because there's unbelievable stuff going on.

Chapter 2: What did Trump say about biological males in women's sports?

3659.72 - 3664.186 Viva Frei

And then you've successfully covered up the entire extortion ring that P. Diddy was running, much like what they did with Epstein.

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3664.807 - 3681.233 Megyn Kelly

Oh, that's very interesting because where are all the tapes showing these well-known celebrities allegedly at these parties, you know, who knows doing who knows what that's speculation on our part, but I've, I have yet to hear anybody put it that way. Viva. One of the many reasons we love hearing your legal perspective.

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3681.253 - 3705.841 Megyn Kelly

All right, let me continue going with the direct testimony of Capricorn, Billy Ray Valentine. Ain't cool being no jerky so close to Thanksgiving. Okay, sorry. I love that movie. She goes on. So let's just go back to December 2011. Okay, so December of 2011 is when she says he learned about this relationship between Kid Cudi and Cassie.

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3706.601 - 3728.316 Megyn Kelly

And he went, he showed up at Capricorn Clark's home with a gun, threatened to go kill Kid Cudi. I read you the quote, get dressed, we're going to kill this N-word. She said she put a lot of detail around it, saying when he showed up at my house, Capricorn did, because for some reason he wanted his assistant to go with him for his hit. Abigail Finan, how good do you have it?

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3728.797 - 3752.135 Megyn Kelly

I'm sorry, but like when I do my own hits, I leave my assistant at home. I do not show up at her home and insist she come with me. He said she said she looked at the people. She could see his pants were split up the inseam from the knee upward, exposing his underwear. When she opened the door, he was holding a gun. He was furious. Why didn't you tell me? He said and asked her about Kid Cudi.

3752.576 - 3772.547 Megyn Kelly

Clark testified that Sean Combs still holding the gun said, get dressed. Yeah, we're going to go kill him. The New York Post reporting that he used the N-word. When she tried to protest, Combs said, I don't give an F what you want to do. Go get dressed. Clark said Combs was livid, furious, mad at me. I had never seen him with a weapon. I had never seen him making me do something like this.

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She said she called Cassie to tell her Diddy was in Kid Cudi's home, which is where she and Diddy went next. They drove to his home. Combs and his security guard entered the home. She was still out in the car. She stayed in the car. She called Cassie Ventura on a burner phone.

3786.656 - 3804.387 Megyn Kelly

She testified she told Ventura that Combs had come to her house with a gun and then they'd gone to Kid Cudi's home to kill him. Just a day in the life as Diddy's assistant. Um, she said she changed Ventura's contact name in the phone to the name Stormy so that Combs would not know that she had just called Ventura.

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Clark said she could hear someone yelling in the background of her call with Cassie Ventura. He's in my house. And that was Kid Cudi, according to Cassie. This all dovetails with Kid Cudi's testimony. When Combs got back into the car, he asked who Clark had been talking to. He called Ventura's burner phone, which was the last recorded call in Capricorn's call log.

Chapter 3: How is masculinity being perceived in today's society?

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And that she was the one who called all the sex trafficking, all the sex workers and paid all the sex workers and that she testified she stayed because she loved the lifestyle. You know, so the defense has got, I don't know, I could see that count not going their way, but

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The whole Rico account is kind of like he built this criminal enterprise and did all these terrible things in order to enable the freak offs. So could you have a conviction on Rico and not on sex trafficking? Would that make sense?

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5064.17 - 5074.94 Viva Frei

I wouldn't venture any sort of professional opinion there, but my prediction would be the exact inverse, that he's going to get convicted on the transportation for prostitution, maybe on the trafficking, because I think it's very easy.

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5075.42 - 5096.676 Viva Frei

It will be not very easy, but the evidence is there now to lend credibility to the argument that Cassie was definitely physically beaten, extorted into it, and coerced into it. I think that's there. Then I think, you know, you get an acquittal or a non-conviction on the RICO, but he still goes to jail for 10, 20 years. I don't know if they run them concurrent or what's the other word? Consecutive.

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5096.696 - 5110.585 Viva Frei

Consecutive. But no, I think they get him on the easiest one. Right off the bat, the evidence is there. And I think it's not hard to show the coercion. Nobody wants to have a freak-off when they're having a urinary tract infection. She was physically beaten all they need to know. And if it happened once, it happened more than once.

5110.866 - 5114.488 Viva Frei

To say that she freely did anything, I don't think any reasonable jury member's been involved.

5115.589 - 5123.896 Megyn Kelly

And the other thing that we're not counting for here, Phil, is by this point in the trial, the jury hates him. Hates him.

5124.997 - 5133.045 Phil Houston

Look, I think they've done – look, whether or not they've proven each of these counts beyond a reasonable doubt, time will tell. I think they're going to have some chances to clean it up.

5133.425 - 5153.222 Phil Houston

I think that two or three weeks from now, not only will the jury hate him, but I imagine they will have heard from some witnesses that don't have this type of, let's just call it colorful cross-examination that the defense can get into. And two weeks from now, if we come back and do this again, I think we're going to look at this trial in a completely different light.

Chapter 4: What did Diddy's former assistant reveal in court?

6012.694 - 6025.96 Phil Houston

Yeah, sure. There's a lot of, you know, and circumstantial evidence has put a lot of people in prison in the United States over the years, and it will continue to do so. So you put all this together and it does paint a very damning picture. But here's my concern.

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6026.661 - 6042.968 Phil Houston

If somebody violated the gag order, what if this judge says, OK, we're not going to let the jury hear this because that's going to be my remedy for violating my gag order? It could very well happen that because of this leak, somebody who's a guilty murderer, well, free.

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6044.089 - 6066.816 Megyn Kelly

That's exactly right. That's why we can hate Dateline. No, it's not the reporter's fault. It's whoever leaked. It's that person's fault. It's not up to Dateline to protect the integrity of the prosecution. We in the press have no obligation to do that. If we get a scoop and if somebody had given me the scoop, I would have run with it too. It's up to the leaker to protect the investigation.

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6067.116 - 6094.537 Megyn Kelly

And there's far more that they revealed And Ann Taylor, the name of his Brian Colbert defense lawyer, is saying that she wants remedies. She says the violations could warrant remedies more serious than delay. I kind of bury the lead. This has come up because she's pushed for a delay of the trial. which is set for this August. And she's saying, we can't do it.

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6094.937 - 6116.908 Megyn Kelly

This is too much was revealed in too high profile a manner for us to A, just run to trial. It's still in people's heads and it shouldn't be. The court ruled that it shouldn't be. The court put a gag order on this case, including the evidence. And there's a reason for that. He didn't want to prejudice the defendant before trial. It's a death penalty case. And yet somebody violated it.

6117.268 - 6140.569 Megyn Kelly

So it would appear that And he is prejudiced. So we do not agree to this August trial and you should bounce it, she says to the judge. And then she says that line in her motion saying, these violations could warrant remedies more serious than delay. And that's teeing up what Phil just said, which is- we maybe the prosecution should not be allowed to use these things.

6140.65 - 6155.516 Megyn Kelly

Like if, if they find out that a law enforcement officer or somebody in the prosecution's office, my money would be on the four on the former. I just don't think the prosecution would do it, but I law enforcement is tend to be, they tend to be kind of leaky. Um, that you should punish the prosecution.

6155.737 - 6181.117 Megyn Kelly

Like, don't let them introduce, for example, the videotape of the white Hyundai Elantra circling the murder house over and over and over in the hours immediately leading up to the murder. And here is, not for nothing, but Keith Morrison on the new car footage in that now problematic dateline that aired May 9th. Listen to SOT 33. Or is this just, yeah, is this a SOT, you guys, or is this video?

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This video, obtained exclusively by Dateline, shows a white car on King Road in Moscow, Idaho, on November 13, 2022. At the wheel, the state will allege, was Brian Koberger, making repeated passes near a house where, minutes later, four students were stabbed to death.

Chapter 5: How is the Diddy trial related to broader issues in Hollywood?

6614.349 - 6629.933 Viva Frei

I mean, that is that is pretty damning circumstantial evidence to have broadcast this on the eve of jury selection, knowing the nature of the case. It looks like something of overt sabotage or, you know, someone got the scoop. And I just keep talking.

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6630.053 - 6640.256 Megyn Kelly

I mean, it's fine if I disagree. I want the audience to go your way. I have to own my bias. Wait, I just want to tell a couple of a couple more of the things that were on there.

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6641.344 - 6662.497 Megyn Kelly

the Dateline episode that resulted in this problem, that he not only watched the Ted Bundy documentary, but, you know, researched Ted Bundy, that he kept bikini pictures of students from the Idaho, the University of Idaho and Washington State on his phone. I mean, I don't know. I don't think random, I'm just not sure, like...

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6663.217 - 6670.662 Megyn Kelly

It's not weird for a college-age guy to have bikini photos of girls, I guess, but it's a little creepy when you know this guy had a lot of trouble with women.

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6670.682 - 6691.274 Megyn Kelly

A lot of women who were in his class where he was a TA getting his PhD said he was a total misogynist, that he definitely had a problem with women, and yet he's on there with little bikini photos with very large-breasted women from his university and the neighboring... He looks like a disgusting pervert. Okay, going on. That in late September...

6692.655 - 6719.236 Megyn Kelly

2022, the murder was in December, sorry, November 2022. In September, he searched terms including sociopathic traits in college student. Okay, it's not great. And porn containing the keywords drugged and sleeping. Okay. which is a particular kind of freaky porn where people get off on having sex with people who are incapacitated.

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In October, the very next month, this now one month before the murders, he searched, can psychopaths behave pro-socially? In the days following the murders, he searched for University of Idaho murders. Well, so did everyone in the country virtually because we wanted to know. So that's not as damning. After the murders, took that jarring, creepy selfie inspired by the video of Ted Bundy and...

6744.005 - 6766.807 Megyn Kelly

Oh, the final one. He searched for the song after the murders and the day before being arrested. He searched for the song Criminal by Britney Spears. He wanted like the extra creepy, slowed down version. So it's all that, plus the Hyundai Elantra tape, plus the details about Ethan Chapin appearing to have been the last of the four targeted.

6766.847 - 6786.193 Megyn Kelly

And by the way, the sequence of the killings that was revealed by this Dateline episode, um, how they believe Maddie, Maddie Mogan was the primary target and he killed her first. Then he did Kaylee who was, this is an accusation. He denies all guilt who was sleeping in the bed with her. Then went back down to the second floor where Ethan and Zanna Cronodal were still awake that he killed Zanna.

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