The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Busfield Allegations, Oprah's Obesity Spin, and Kohberger and Sinema Lawsuits, with Maureen Callahan | Ep. 1232
16 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What updates are there on the Brian Kohberger and Timothy Busfield cases?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Friday. We have got updates on the Brian Kohlberger case and the Timothy Busfield case. Plus, Oprah and Kamala Harris are both on the road. We'll get to what they're saying.
But first, people continue freaking out about the Trump administration's ICE operation in Minneapolis. We've got more videos of leftists melting down. And if you believed everything on NPR, maybe you would, too. You would also be in the midst of a midlife crisis meltdown. Listen to this report from NPR's Up First this morning. As you know, I listen so you don't have to.
And I should note the observers filming and making noise. Those peaceful acts of resistance, even though they're chaotic, are protected by the Constitution. But ICE has responded to some confrontations over the last week with a lot of aggression. Over the last five days, NPR reporters, myself included, we've seen ICE officers using tear gas, flashbangs, and pepper balls to disperse crowds.
But the community here, you know, it's responding in quieter ways, too. Well, say more about that, if you would. How so? Yeah, so if you drive around the Twin Cities, you'll see parents and other community members standing guard outside of schools and daycares with whistles around their necks. Residents are collecting food donations and giving rides to people who are afraid to leave the house.
And people are afraid to leave their homes. And these fears, being afraid to leave the house, they're not unfounded. NPR reporters have witnessed immigration officers stopping and even detaining people of color seemingly at random on the street.
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Chapter 2: How is the community responding to ICE operations?
Oh, seemingly. What did you do to satisfy yourself, NPR, that it was just at random? And by the way, most of the illegals are indeed people of color. OK, sorry. They're all coming from Venezuela, which means they're brown. It's not a racist thing. It's a country thing, a nationality thing. They don't stop just any brown person.
They stop the people who are on a list that they have figured out got in, most of them under Joe Biden's presidency. who are here illegally, like the three Venezuelans who attacked the ICE officer two days ago. Like, the ICE, you know, they appear to be stopping people of color at random.
Meanwhile, just for good measure, here they are proving their, like, their bona fides over at NPR of, like, actual Latina and Latino knowledge. Here is the guy, A. Martinez, who wants you to know he totally understands how to pronounce the Latin words the right way. Here he is. Listen, Sot 3.
Venezuela's leading opposition figure came to Washington, D.C. to meet with President Trump for the first time and presented him with her Nobel Peace Prize. Maria Corina Machado is making a push to remain part of Venezuela's future after the U.S. military operation that led to the seizure of deposed leader Nicolás Maduro.
Trump has sidelined Machado and is backing Venezuela's acting president, who at the same time yesterday was in Caracas giving a defiant and at times compliant speech before lawmakers.
Caracas. Okay, we get it, eh, Martinez? You know, we get it, okay? I'm Megyn Kelly, but when we do stories about Ireland, I'm not like, ooh, lasses, time to get out of the bar. I don't know if that was an Irish accent or not. It's just absurd. All of this is absurd. OK, no mention in the NPR report of the ICE officer ambushed Wednesday night or of the crimes committed by the illegal immigrants.
ICE is lawfully targeting nothing about the violent protesters who literally ransacked a federal vehicle, including its weapons locker, grabbing. the rifle, putting the emails and the address information for ICE officers out into the public. I didn't hear anything about getting beaten with a shovel and a broom handle to where the ICE officers in the hospital, nothing.
It's just, they're just standing guard with their whistles. They're so sweet. And also here is news from Caracas. Joining me now to react to all of this and more, one of our very favorites and yours, Maureen Callahan is here. She's host of The Nerve with Maureen Callahan on the MK Media Podcast Network. Go and subscribe right now to all of her platforms.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the recent ICE confrontations?
And that, you know, we're still learning about what happened with Renee Good when we got more, you know, this is what's going to happen. It's kind of like, do you know that movie Rashomon? It's an old Japanese movie and it centers around a rape. I think it was made in the 40s. And it tells it from three perspectives. The victims, the perpetrators, and then sort of an omniscient point of view.
And I always feel with stories like this, they've got to develop because we just don't know what we're going to see. A week later, we get another camera angle of Renee Good in her car, and she's like really taunting. Having a great time. She's having a great time in that car, and it's not just like this whoops.
And then we learn also that the ICE agent who shot her had been dragged six months prior. And in that horrific, horrific event, probably thought he was going to die, if not get his arm ripped off. 33 stitches. Yeah. And then so my question is, should this guy have been back out in the field six months later? Does he have some form of PTSD? I just think there's so much... that we don't know.
And I feel like both sides are retreating to their corners. If you're on the right, ICE is completely in the right. You know, watching Tom Holman with Tony DiCoppo the day that this happened with Rene Good saying, ICE never makes a mistake, ever.
You know, and then on the left, hearing that ICE is just a bunch of white supremacist thugs who are looking for anyone of color to terrorize and brutalize. I just... I don't know. It just doesn't feel right to me. Oh, man. I'm 100% on ICE's side. I don't see the nuance on this one. I feel like you don't want to get shot in the face by ICE. Don't try to run one down. Don't try to antagonize them.
Don't inject yourself in the middle of a law enforcement operation, you fool. Right. Everybody knows not to do that. Everybody knows not to do that. And everybody knows that these cops are being antagonized and might be a little on edge. Like in the law, we call it assumption of the risk. That's what I see Renee Good doing that day.
It's not that I have no empathy for her family, but I have empathy for them because they had a dumb ass mother who made very fucking dumb decisions that got her killed. Like that's how I, to me, it's so clear. I'm one of those 67% more Republican-leaning people who are in favor of this.
But as we pointed out on AM Update today and yesterday on the show, 53% of the populace is saying they're on the side of Rene Good. Like they think the ICE officer made a mistake and that he should be prosecuted, the majority, and that's all Democrats and independents. So you're not wrong that people are definitely seeing it vehemently differently.
The woman, I said that one woman getting dragged from her car was in Florida only because that's the most recent. But we did show a video yesterday of this woman getting dragged by cops like, I have a brain injury. I have autism. I have everything. No, you don't. You don't. You were like two minutes earlier, you were in your car antagonizing them and you were fine.
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Chapter 4: How do personal narratives influence public perception of ICE?
They're actually literally molesting young girls and killing them, like Jocelyn Nungare down in Texas. Jasmine Crockett is crying her eyes out over the ice raids and Jennifer Good. She's crying over Jennifer Good, Renee Good. She didn't cry over Jocelyn Nungare, who's from Texas like she is. Not a fucking tear. We went back and checked. Not a word. She didn't care.
So it's just, to me, none of these people who have been brutally murdered by these illegals gets a demonstration by these people. Where are they with their whistles when the illegals are crossing the border, meaning to do Americans harm?
It's just until they can get their faces on TV and cause chaos for Trump that they suddenly become these warriors thinking, it's civil war and I'm on the side of the good guys. I just, I have zero tolerance for it. I... I am firmly in the 67%. I know. I know. So anyway, okay, this goes on and it's not showing any signs of resolving anytime soon, and nor is the rhetoric calming down at all.
But there's a lot more to get to. So you mentioned one battle left or another, which my team mentioned to me this morning, and I had zero familiarity with it. What is it and why is it relevant? So it's the Leonardo DiCaprio movie, Sean Penn, and it's directed by Paul Thomas Anderson. It just won at the Golden Globes. Best musical or comedy? I think it's a drama. I don't understand it. Okay.
So it's not, the time in which it is set remains distinctly, deliberately unclear.
Okay.
Leo plays an agitator. He is a they use violence to get their ends across their message across. He is in an interracial relationship with a black woman. And the way the film opens is they are setting a bomb outside of a like a federal agency and they're running away. And his girlfriend, his pregnant girlfriend, wants to have sex as the bomb goes off. OK, OK, we're setting the table.
And Leo is sort of in this post-COVID, again, the time is unclear by deliberate choice, but he's in this sort of post-COVID ratty, like, bathrobe throughout the whole, like, it's unclear. They're telling me that we have a clip from the, is this from the trailer, Steve? Is that what we're about to see? It's from the opening scene. Okay, let's watch.
Our best guess, there's about 250, 275 people in there. It's hard to count. We need to be prepared for like 300 people by the time we get there, right? At an ICE facility. Our cargo container, 18-wheeler, that thing only holds 160 people. I'm talking about crammed in there tight. It's cheek to cheek. Smash faces to face. Women and children first.
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Chapter 5: What are the latest allegations against Oprah regarding her weight loss journey?
She claims to be reading all these books. They must be very surface level books because she's learning very little. They're awful. You go into the bookstore and you see like a book with, it's got the read with Jenna stamp, like, you know, to just bypass it. That's how I feel. I just steer clear. If I see that, if I see the Reese Witherspoon, if I see Oprah, oh hell no on the Oprah. Okay.
And speaking of Oprah, now we got to talk about her. This is incredible. Okay. Oprah Winfrey has decided, hold on. I need my glasses. Cause I really do have to read this. You should get Viz Megan.
Yeah.
I need the Viz.
Chapter 6: What shocking details emerge about the Bryan Kohberger lawsuit?
Yeah. Yo Doug. Okay. So here's the story. Oprah is on a book tour again. Oprah is opening up, writes USA Today or People, we got it for both, about her weight loss journey, Maureen. You don't say. She never talks about it. Never. It's like pulling teeth. She's opening up about her weight loss journey in a new book, sharing how she overcame the shame of not being able to manage my weight.
It's called Enough, Your Health, Your Weight, and What It's Like to Be Free. Enough is a collaboration between Winfrey and Dr. Anya M. Jastiboff, an endocrinologist and professor at Yale, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, in enough, Winfrey recalls, quote, one of the most humiliating moments of her life when Joan Rivers asked her how she gained weight on The Tonight Show in 1985.
From there, Winfrey became a running joke. Winfrey has previously credited GLP-1s for more than just weight loss. She said it's helped her strengthen her relationship with her longtime partner, Stedman. Where's Stedman? Where is Stedman, Maureen?
Where is Stedman?
We did a whole episode on this on The Nerve. We're still investigating. Yeah, we don't know. We've got the little dog looking for him. I have updates. Oh, okay. So, but allegedly, allegedly Oprah has strengthened her relationship with the, we believe, missing Stedman. Winfrey, let's see, it's given her more energy and it's helped her consume less alcohol. Now here's this, this is the best part.
This is why I, this is why we're doing this segment. She says, you all know to People Magazine in December, I've been on this journey for most of my life. My highest weight was 237 pounds, which I have to say I call bullshit and I think it was higher. I don't know if there is another public person whose weight struggle has been exploited as much as mine over the years.
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Chapter 7: How does the IVF mix-up impact the families involved?
Oh, please. Exploited? It's her narrative. It's her favorite narrative. It's her favorite moneymaker. Who is she kidding? Like, oh, mean Joan Rivers set her up for this and then the terrible industry just kept exploiting it. I'm just going to like quickly toss to a soundbite of the exploitation that she seems to have forgotten about.
This is what 67 pounds of fat looks like. Yeah, we're looking at a skinny Oprah.
Chapter 8: What ethical questions are raised about surrogacy and parenthood?
Who were the people who exploited her, Maureen? You know, that was before a GLP-1 existed. Yeah. She did it. She did it somehow, you know? Oh, but now the whole theory of this book is obesity is a disease that happens to you. And all those efforts were for not because she doesn't have willpower, but because she has a disease that made her eat.
By the way, this book is bullshit because she didn't collaborate on it. I got the book. She wrote a forward. It's like three and a half pages long. And the doc, who is kind of in her shadow at all of these media appearances, she wrote the actual book.
Oh, no way. Oh, of course.
What am I saying? So Oprah, again, is shilling a bunch of bullshit. And you can't also posit yourself as like, and as Gail will frequently remind us, as America's foremost influencer- And like the person who moves the needle culturally and be like, Joan Rivers victimized me. You know, if you can't take Joan Rivers, you have no business being in the spotlight. Joan Rivers victimized all of us.
It was a badge of honor to be made fun of by her. Like Dawn Rickles.
Yes.
She was a legend. You wanted it. She was so smart. Like, yeah. I'll never forget this one episode. She was on Fox and Friends and I was hosting America's Newsroom with Hammer and they said, you know, we got to go, Joan. She was the last segment of Fox and Friends. So it was like a moment before I came on it. They're like, we got to go. We're tossing to now to Bill Hammer and Megyn Kelly.
And she was like, Megyn Kelly, that bitch. I was like, I've arrived. I've arrived. It was a compliment. It's a total compliment. I don't know if I told you this, but when I was back at the New York Post, I did a phone interview with Don Rickles once. And he got on the phone. I said, hi, this is Maureen Callahan at the Post. He goes, Maureen Callahan? He's like, where's your father right now?
Falling off a barstool somewhere? I died. I died. I mean, we're talking about the Irish now, so I believe you mean to say, talking about my dad falling off the barstool somewhere. Yeah. We have to slip into the dialect just like A. Martinez. Exactly. You know that guy on News Channel 4? This makes me think of that. His name is Gabby Acevedo.
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