The Megyn Kelly Show
Time's Absurd "Person of the Year," Newsom's Inauthenticity, and America's Font Changes, with RealClearPolitics and Doug Brunt | Ep. 1211
11 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Time magazine has named its person of the year. Can you guess who it is? Do you have a thought in your mind of who it should be? I'm going to tell you in one second.
And Gavin Newsom is making his 2028 plans official as he rolls out his pre-book tour. Later in the show, we will have an actual book author, somebody who writes all his own stuff and is a best-selling author. He happens to be married to me. His name is Doug Brunt, and he's going to be here for our second hour. That'll be fun.
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And these guys are live on it at the beginning of the hour before. And the show is a huge hit.
Yeah. Megyn did Time Magazine. I haven't seen that yet. Did they get my nominee, which was you, to be the first? Did they follow my advice?
Sadly, not even an honorable mention, Carl. I was robbed. I was seriously robbed. It could be because when I showed up as a member of the Time 100, I crapped all over their award show and said no one here is actually really important. That may have come back to haunt me. I remember that.
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Chapter 2: Who was named Time Magazine's Person of the Year and why?
So there's a lot of interesting questions about AI. I haven't read the article. Maybe they raised that, but that's something that I think about from time to time. There was just this story about the guy, he said, chat GPT, like he says, told him to kill his mother or something.
I saw this headline. I was like, that is crazy. We had parents on whose son killed himself because of ChatGPT telling him over and over. I mean, obviously that wasn't the sole reason. He was depressed and he was upset. But ChatGPT goaded him into it even worse than that young teenage girl goaded her boyfriend into it, who later was brought up on manslaughter charges for her behavior.
I mean, if you could slap ChatGPT with manslaughter charges, it would have happened in that case. Instead, Sam Altman has got a civil suit on his hands that's going to cost him a fortune, I predict. But yeah, there's a dark side of AI, that's for sure. And super intelligent computers, meaning super intelligent AI, is a legit threat. I mean, who knows?
We're joking, like, will the machines let us have a discussion about whether AI deserves this title in a few years? Sadly, that may not be a joke. I wanted to parlay it from the Charlie discussion into... This is a very toxic conversation, and I'm not asking you guys to weigh in on the underlying fight. But there's been a back and forth now between Erica Kirk and Candace Owens.
And I want to ask you guys about the politics of this, the politics of it, and also the politics of Israel. Because those two things right now are dividing the conservative movement and some inside of it. And now it's gone beyond the back and forth between like a Candace and the Turning Point group into this is going to cost us the midterms, the midterms. And you guys are the politics experts.
So I'm going to set up the underlying argument on which you do not need to opine. But I'm going to ask you for your take on the politics of it. So for the audience, here is what happened. Something extraordinary happened yesterday. And just FYI, I am going to have more to say very soon on what's happening between Erica Kirk and Turning Point on the one hand and Candace on the other.
Not today, but very soon. And I have my reasons for that. So Erica went on with Harris Faulkner yesterday in, again, promoting Charlie's book. And... She said the thing that Candace had said from the beginning Candace needed to hear in order to stop with blaming Turning Point for Charlie's assassination. For the listening audience, we have a man in custody for the Charlie Kirk assassination.
His name is Tyler Robinson. He will be in court today in a couple of hours on a hearing about whether and what access the media should have to this trial. We'll be covering that for you tomorrow. And Erica... As fired up as I've seen her on this, clearly addressed Candace directly without saying her name.
And I know for a fact this was an address to Candace, and Candace knew it too because she responded to it. Here is Erica Kirk. This is how Erica teed it up. Hold on a second. Yeah, no, let's start with Sot 9. Sot 9.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Charlie Kirk's assassination on the conservative movement?
I do think, look, this election and the next election are going to be based on what the public writ large cares about. And that is affordability. It's inflation. It's, you know, gas prices and all of that. Trump's approval rating for sure. and Democrats and their ability to leverage that stuff against the Republican Party in these midterms and then again in 2028.
I do think though, Megan, when you talk about sort of the youth movement and how Charlie had it unified and moving in one direction and moving toward Trump, Trump was the cool guy to vote for in 2024 in a way that we hadn't seen in a long time. on the Republican side, that that has kind of frayed and the Israel piece has divided the party in the aftermath of 2024. That's an ongoing thing.
And that could have an impact on Republican turnout among young voters and on the margins, though. Certainly in 2026, it's going to be more, you know, it's going to be a low turnout election. So every vote is going to matter as they always do in midterms.
But I just don't think this Candace Owens thing, it is it's pretty dramatic because it is so, as I said, in my opinion, despicable what she's doing. And it's getting a lot of headlines. But in terms of its impact on the Republican Party overall, I don't think it's going to have much.
I'll say one other thing to your point, you know, Trump became like the cool guy to vote for in 2024 among the youth in large part, thanks to Charlie and turning point. And that also did in part depend on Charlie himself. Like Charlie, when I was talking to his staff, when I went out there to host his show, um,
I think this happened live on the air, but they were talking about how Charlie loved listening to classical music. They kept trying to play country music for him out there. They live in Arizona. And he was like, I don't like it. I want my classical music. Then he had a couple of other things. His late night snack, Erica told me, was like a banana and olives. He was squeaky clean.
And I joked with the Turning Point staff, so what you're saying is he was a nerd, right? And they would not even say that in jest. They were like, no, like Charlie was an alpha male. And it was important to Charlie that alpha men return to the national scene. And that actually also made it cool to vote Republican, Tom. You know, like that swagger, Charlie's swagger and like he was cool.
That also was attractive, I think, to a lot of young people. We saw that, too, with a young man in particular after he died.
Absolutely. And I mean, he's irreplaceable. I mean, he had this sort of charisma. He was a rock star. I mean, my daughter was on the ASU campus and she told me a story. She was walking by and there's this huge crowd. She was like, oh, my gosh, who's here? You know, it was Charlie. It was Charlie just answering questions. I mean, he attracted these huge crowds wherever he went. He was a magnet.
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Chapter 4: What holiday traditions do Megyn and Doug discuss?
All right. First, we've got, we have our Jack Carr tumblers with the, I don't know if it can show up here with the ice, but it's got the tomahawk Navy SEAL thing. So shout out to Jack Carr. Merry Christmas. Thank you for the glasses. We're going to have a little traditional eggnog with bourbon.
It's organic. It's healthy.
Locale organic.
It's like having an egg.
We learned that lesson a few years ago.
Yes, exactly.
We'll do it with rye, Michter's rye.
Yeah, what officially goes in an eggnog?
Some people do bourbon, some do rum, some do both.
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Chapter 5: How do they prepare for Christmas together?
Now he's doing the nutmeg. Nutmeg over the... Didn't we do this last year? Didn't we do the eggnog last year? We did.
I think I had to read your ad by the end. Maybe that was a different show. Cheers, honey.
Merry Christmas. Love you. Oh, yeah, that's tasty.
Our first eggnog of the season. That's delicious.
I know. Well done. Yeah, no, and we talked about how that one year we were drinking eggnogs like they were going out of style. When we were young, we didn't have kids, and we both blew up like ticks. We were huge.
We're looking in the mirror like something's changed in our diet.
Is it possible? It's the eggnog.
The full-fat eggnog.
And then we looked at the nutritional information on the box.
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Chapter 6: What humorous stories do they share about their family activities?
Oh, really? Sodium.
Decent amount of sugar.
Nothing is worse than the Martha Stewart recipe. I mentioned this to you this morning over coffee. I just saw it on X. Steve, I'll send it to you. We had to drop it in for the listening audience. This thing was loaded with alcohol. First of all, it was like so many eggs and so much sugar and so much heavy cream.
And then on top of that, it was like three cups of bourbon, three cups of rum, and three cups of another alcohol.
Martha gets after it.
You're phoning it in with this rye business.
She's putting me to shame.
I don't know what you were thinking. Usually men are trying to get women intoxicated.
We're on set. We can definitely have more booze, but getting involved in eggs and cream and stuff, we're not going to do that here.
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Chapter 7: What insights do they offer on parenting and humor?
There's like a million presents everywhere.
He helps me, and that's why I have an ace in the hole. I have a secret weapon.
You have a little elf up in the north.
Yeah, so I don't really need Doug Brun's help because I've got Santa.
Although I do help a little.
You do help. But we were talking a little bit about our Christmas traditions. I was doing this for Steven Crowder. And there's so many that we do. Like we go to Montana every year. Yeah. And there's a bunch of stuff we do over there. But what would you say? Like I've asked what's our top or what's a couple of top Christmas traditions that we have?
I mean, well, we're still, you know, earmuffs on the kids. We're still firing away with the elf every morning. Shh. And the advent. They know. And- We try to carol as much as possible, but that's not every year. We do have a great, like, almost 20 years tradition of getting lunch with a particular group of friends in the city. It used to be the 21 Club. Hello, that's got to open back up.
It does.
The 21 Club. Yep. But we have found new venues for that.
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