Democracy Forward Leader on Court Victory Against Trump
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hey, who's driving? I've only driven four. Where are we going?
What immediate court rulings stopped the plan to cut SNAP benefits?
So two massive losses for the Trump regime in federal court regarding SNAP benefits.
A Rhode Island judge has ordered that the Trump regime immediately tap into its contingency or emergency funds to make sure that 42 million Americans don't starve this weekend. That was a decision issued by Judge John McConnell. The group Democracy Forward filed the one in Rhode Island. Then separately, there was a case brought by AGs in the United District Court for the District of Massachusetts. where there a federal judge, Judge Talwani, basically found the Trump regime not tapping into the emergency or contingency funds for SNAP was unlawful, but the remedy has not yet been officially issued by the judge in the Massachusetts case. because the judge wants an answer by Monday, but people are going to starve this weekend.
So the Rhode Island order is a nationwide order, though, and that's really big. And it's big for a lot of reasons. One, because we don't want people to starve to death. And so this was a heroic lawsuit filed by the group Democracy Forward. But also the Trump regime has been exposed as utter liars, right? You had Maga Mike Johnson and JD Vance and Trump and all of them. They were saying this lawsuit is frivolous. that there's no basis. And now we have federal judges, multiple, saying no, the actual correct legal opinion is that this emergency fund should absolutely be used. So here's what MAGA Mike said. And now that we know what the federal judges have ordered, what MAGA Mike said should just show you that whenever this guy opens up his mouth, he freaking lies about everything.
Here, play this clip.
I'll just add to that. The Democrats are lying about that, and I think they know that.
How did the Rhode Island judge order emergency funds to be used for SNAP?
Some of the ones who are out saying it are actually attorneys. They can read the black letter law themselves. They didn't file a lawsuit, you saw, to try to do it. Why? Because they wanted a talking point. They know that's a frivolous piece of litigation. They know they're going to lose, but they also know it'll take many weeks or months to have that ultimately determined by a court. because the way the justice system works so they're using it as a talking point to try to claim okay and then you had brooke rollins the agriculture secretary here's what she said
So there is a contingency fund at USDA. But that contingency fund, by the way, doesn't even cover, I think, half of the $9.2 billion that would be required for November SNAP. But it is only allowed to flow if the underlying program is funded. It's called a contingency fund. And by law, contingency fund can only flow when the underlying fund is flowing.
Well, it's clear that they're liars. Let's bring in Skye Perryman, president and CEO of Democracy Forward, whose group represented all of the municipalities and organizations that brought that lawsuit in Rhode Island. So vindicated. I mean, more importantly, the people who could go starving are going to be fed. But the Trump regime has been saying that there's no basis in law for them to give these funds to these people who the funds are intended to go to, that the legislation clearly says it should go to. And now, Sky, you have the federal judges telling them that this is what the contingency fund is for. Great victory and great to have you here. And thank you for bringing that lawsuit.
Well, thank you for having me. It was a tremendous effort by our team, by our co-counsel, the Lawyers Committee of Rhode Island, and the Maison Justice Center and Democracy Forward. And then, of course, our brave clients who I don't want to get lost here.
What did the Massachusetts court say about the Trump administration's SNAP funding?
I mean, the Rhode Island Council of Churches, the National Council of Nonprofits, SEIU. I mean, these are clients that are representing so many communities. We have small grocers, people across the country, small businesses that stepped forward in order to secure this order. And I think the Trump administration needs to let the judges interpret the law. That's one of my takeaways from the clips you played.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:07
2
What immediate court rulings stopped the plan to cut SNAP benefits?
0:07–2:06
3
How did the Rhode Island judge order emergency funds to be used for SNAP?
2:06–4:02
4
What did the Massachusetts court say about the Trump administration's SNAP funding?
4:02–8:15
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How did MAGA leaders and administration officials publicly defend not using contingency funds?
8:15–13:14