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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Governor Pritzker Discusses Fighting Back against Trump

15 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the latest polling trends for Donald Trump?

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The White House is in panic mode as Donald Trump's approval is crashing on the real clear politics average. Over the past week, Donald Trump's approval has dropped approximately four points there, and it keeps on getting lower. We've also been covering how all these

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right-wing podcasters are turning against Donald Trump for his cover-up of the Epstein files, for sending his ICE and Border Patrol Gestapo, these SS-like armies, into peaceful communities to terrorize them, or for Donald Trump pardoning the biggest drug traffickers and fraudsters and criminals. People are pissed and the pissed off nature against Trump continues to grow.

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So let me show you what went down in the White House where Caroline Leavitt, Donald Trump's chief propagandist, asks a reporter what the reporter thought was the reason that Renee Nicole Goode was killed. The reporter answers the question and gives the opinion that he was asked for. And then Leavitt starts attacking the reporter. Watch what takes place.

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Why was Rene Goode unfortunately and tragically killed?

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Are you asking me my opinion? Because an ICE agent acted recklessly and killed an unjustified reporter.

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Oh, okay. So you're a biased reporter with a left-wing opinion. What do you want me to do? Yeah, because you're a left-wing hack. You're not a reporter. You're posing in this room as a journalist. And it's so clear by the premise of your question. And you and the people in the media who have such biases, but fake, like you're a journalist, you shouldn't even be sitting in that seat.

Chapter 2: How are right-wing podcasters reacting to Trump?

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but you're pretending like you're a journalist, but you're a left-wing activist. And the question that you just raised and your answer proves your bias. You should be reporting on the facts. You should be reporting on the cases. Do you have the numbers of how many American citizens were killed at the hands of illegal aliens who ICE is trying to remove from this country?

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Then Caroline Levitt declares that there is no more inflation and that Donald Trump has defeated Biden's inflation crisis, she says. Here, play this clip.

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President has already delivered. Tuesday's CPI report marked the latest confirmation that President Trump has defeated Joe Biden's inflation crisis. Since President Trump took office, core CPI has increased at just a 2.4% annualized rate, substantially lower than the 3.3% annual rate inherited from the Biden administration last January.

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Caroline Levitt is asked about Donald Trump's statements about canceling elections. Twice in recent days, Donald Trump has said he doesn't want any more elections. And Caroline Levitt says, that's just Donald Trump joking around. Play this clip.

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My question is, President Trump has talked twice in recent days, once at the Kennedy Center and then to Reuters again last night about canceling the election. Why is he talking about this?

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I believe you're referring to the president's interview at Reuters last night. I was in that interview. It was a closed-door interview. Obviously, there was not audio or video. The president was simply joking. He was saying, we're doing such a great job. We're doing everything the American people thought. Maybe we should just keep rolling. But he was speaking facetiously.

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And then one more. So then another reporter asked Caroline Levitt if she thinks it's just a funny joke to say that we don't want elections anymore, that this is a humorous topic that presidents should be talking about. Here, play this clip. Thank you, Caroline. Two questions. First, a follow-up on one of my colleagues who asked you about the president's interview with lawyers.

Chapter 3: What controversial comments did Caroline Levitt make about ICE?

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You said that he was joking about canceling the elections, but Americans for generations have fought and died for democracy, for this democracy. Are you saying that the president finds the idea of canceling elections funny?

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Andrew, were you in the room? No, you weren't. I was in the room. I heard the conversation. And only someone like you would take that so seriously and pose it at a question in that way.

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Next, Caroline Levitt is asked whether the fact that other nations in Europe are putting special forces and troops in Greenland, will that deter a United States invasion of Greenland? To which Caroline Levitt says, yeah, if European nations put their special forces there, doesn't matter.

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Our invasion plans or plans to acquire it or take it over by any means necessary and all options are on the table. That doesn't change, in essence, saying that America would go to war against Europe. This is what's going down this morning. Here, play this clip right here.

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Well, to your first question on Greenland, I don't think troops in Europe impact the president's decision-making process, nor does it impact his goal of the acquisition of Greenland at all. To your second question, I mean, anyone in their right mind with common sense who's speaking honestly and candidly will say that men cannot get pregnant. And I think I can attest to that myself.

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So thank you all very much.

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Next, Caroline Levitt was asked if it's still Donald Trump's assessment that the opposition leader of Venezuela, Maria Corina Machado, or Edmundo Gonzalez, who won the election back in July, if they are still ineffective and lack the respect and support of Venezuela such that they should not run the country.

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And you'll see that Caroline Leavitt says, basically, Trump's person is Delcy Rodriguez, who is Maduro's VP. Trump likes the authoritarian regime in Venezuela right now. Watch what Caroline Leavitt says here. Play this clip. Thank you, Caroline. Is it still the president's assessment that it would be very hard for Ms.

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Machado to leave Venezuela because he says she lacks the respect and support in that country? And will he raise that with her today?

Chapter 4: What did Trump say about canceling elections?

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i saw in some of the litigation brought by the state by the city of chicago a stat that in like the 30 40 past years chicago pd like never used these gaseous noxious substances at all in anything and chicago's been through a lot like any major metropolitan area but that just really stood out to me because on a daily basis You'll see these scenes, peaceful protesters, and they're loud, yes.

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Sometimes they're cursing, but they're blowing their whistles and they're out there, but they're peaceful and they're on the side of the road. And the scene you see is these eyesore border patrol, and it's hard to tell who's who with the masks and they're wearing their military fatigues.

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they're marching with these weapons of war and then they take these gas canisters in the case of chicago and illinois we saw bovino literally the leader take one and then they they chuck them at the people and then the people start choking and i see these scenes and i saw the stat that these are not law enforcement tactics of de-escalation or anything like this is a whole new thing that is

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paramilitary and that what we're used to seeing surround authoritarians, frankly, like the Maduro's and like the Putin's and these paramilitary groups that surround authoritarian leaders are now, I guess, Delcy Rodriguez in Venezuela, who Trump's hoisted up with the Venezuelan collectivos that have people going around terrorizing the pro-democracy, pro-opposition forces there.

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What do you make of just those tactics?

777.445 - 805.343 Governor J.B. Pritzker

Well, does it surprise you? I mean, let me just, you know, let's step back and remember that Donald Trump, starting back in 2020, was not only election denying, but really threatening to seize the ballot boxes, to bring in the National Guard, to try to keep himself in power. Now, what he's doing is militarizing our cities

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also threatening not to have elections just this morning he said that you know maybe we shouldn't have an election in the midterms because republicans might lose and that would be bad and therefore we should take away people's right to vote um and uh and this is a guy who who over and over again has been all about protecting himself ice cbp why are they building up this massive force

832.542 - 860.541 Governor J.B. Pritzker

It's like a personal army for Donald Trump. They've got no training. They're hiring people that are MAGA enthusiasts. Indeed, we just saw that they were using AI, and what do you know? They brought people in, no experience, no ability, and fast-tracking them and putting them on the streets because they want this kind of roughing up. They want this kind of terrorizing in the neighborhoods.

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And because it'll make those who are undocumented, you know, fearful, but it'll also make U.S. citizens fearful to speak out. And ultimately, it might make them fearful to vote in 2026. So I'm deeply concerned about the state of democracy right now.

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