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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Governor Shapiro Discusses Leadership and New Book

17 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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30.254 - 47.402 Ben Meiselas

Donald Trump just got the news he feared most regarding his cover-up of the Epstein files. His cover-up as well as the horrific performing American economy right now is crushing his poll numbers. They are at new lows and this is at the same time.

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that it has now been uncovered that Donald Trump is likely hiding still 98% of the Epstein files, even with the production of the 3 million or so documents that were previously produced a week or two ago. And even with the unredacted copies that are still redacted that Congress got to see, there likely exists 98% more documents, perhaps 50, 100 million documents that are still being covered up.

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And that makes sense when you think about how widespread this Epstein class pedo sex trafficking ring is that Donald Trump is covering up. Here's what we're learning from Channel 4 News.

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A new investigation examining emails sent between federal investigators and prosecutors has raised fresh doubts over the Department of Justice's claim that it released a full cache of Epstein files, suggesting the material made public amounts to just 2% of the data gathered by agents. Channel 4 News from the UK goes on to say that

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Federal investigators expected to process between 20 and 40 terabytes of data seized from Epstein's properties, including his Florida mansion, New York townhouse, and private island. Note that the feds did not even go to the area where some of the most despicable conduct was taking place, which was the New Mexico ranch, the Zorro Ranch.

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The broadcaster added that the emails between investigators discussing the data totaled up to 50 terabytes from the earliest stages of the investigation as of June 2020. To me, that means we're talking about 100 million documents, folks. So let's talk about Donald Trump's crashing approvals right now. Here's how it was just described moments ago by Harry Enten. Here, play this clip.

Chapter 2: What news about Donald Trump and the Epstein files is discussed?

160.09 - 182.659 Harry Enten

through and through. Let's take a look at another president though, President Donald John Trump. Look at this, I got four numbers across for you on this screen here. They are all second term lows for the given pollster. What are we talking about? AP Newark, 26 points below water. NBC, 22 points below water. Yahoo YouGov, 20 points below water. Quinnipiac, 19 points below water.

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182.679 - 199.823 Harry Enten

So we're ranging from negative 19 points all the way to negative 26 points. You know, Kate, there's this question that folks keep asking, You know, where is the floor for Donald Trump? And I'm not sure there is a floor, because if there is one, Donald Trump, at least in term number two, has just fallen through it to another low level.

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How does this compare with his first term, and how does this compare with Joe Biden?

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Okay, so we look at these numbers right here. One of the things that Donald Trump had been arguing, his proponents had been arguing, oh, you know what, he's doing better than he was doing in term number one. No longer is that the case. What are we talking about here? Okay, net approval rating at this point in the term. Look at this.

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22 points below order on average when you average all the pollsters from the last slide. That is actually lower. That is lower than he was at this point in term number one when it was 17 points below order. So he's doing five points worse, five points worse. And he's doing way worse than Joe Biden was doing at this point in his term number one when he was 13 points below order.

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So the bottom line is this. Donald Trump is setting new records for himself in term number two, setting new records for himself compared to where he was at this point in term number one. And he's doing worse than Joe Biden, which is, of course, a comparison that Donald Trump does not want to be because we all know what happened to Joe Biden.

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His party lost the House in term number one, that midterm elections. And of course, Joe Biden was not reelected to another term. At this point, the numbers are no bueno for the president of the United States.

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What's driving this that you're seeing right now?

267.702 - 285.865 Harry Enten

Okay, Kate, you know what? This is the segment, we have done it over and over and over again because he keeps setting new lows for himself. What are we talking about? Well, we're talking about independence. We're talking about independence. When you lose the center of the electorate, you lose the American people. Trump's net approval rating among independents.

Chapter 3: How are Trump's approval ratings affecting his political standing?

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It's the hard work that prosecutors do behind the scenes to stand up for victims. It's the hard work prosecutors do behind the scenes to hold the powerful accountable. And that is what I am not seeing coming out of the Trump administration.

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777.021 - 806.038 Ben Meiselas

Right. And in the book, you talk about other Lots of people knew you standing up to Trump during the elections of 2020, and Trump tries to overthrow the results, which we could even talk a little bit about, knowing what you saw in Fulton County, where he recycled the same types of bogus declarations that he tried to push past. Let's do that, then I'll go out of water.

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806.278 - 833.398 Ben Meiselas

So you saw what he did, but in the system, where he had to go to court there was adversarial in nature so you as the ag were able to say this declaration is this affidavit exactly it's and then the judge goes tell me about it counsel and you go i could easily show you and then not only do these affidavits get rejected but the lawyers on the other side get sanctioned and lose their license.

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Now Trump's reached this whole other point where they're submitting the affidavits just with the same stuff and they're giving them to magistrates as though this stuff is fact in situations where there's not an adversarial process.

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847.903 - 868.253 Josh Shapiro

You sound like Professor Ben right now. I try, I try, I try. No, but let me give you a real life example of how this played out in Pennsylvania and juxtapose that with what we're seeing in Fulton County. Back in 2020, I'll just remind you, you and I talked about it a lot at the time, Donald Trump and his enablers

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sued me in Pennsylvania 43 different times to try and throw out the votes of legal eligible voters here in Pennsylvania. He went oh and 43, I went 43 and oh, and we had a free and fair, safe and secure election. In one of those cases, there were these bogus affidavits, these bogus statements that the Trump folks were relying on that were introduced in court

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when they were asking the judge to try and throw out these votes. Guess who the lawyer was at that time? It was Rudy Giuliani. And Giuliani went into court and lied. He lied with his own mouth. He lied with the introduction of these affidavits and other statements. And in the end, not only did they lose the case and I won and we protected the voters here in Pennsylvania,

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But then we pursued Giuliani's law degree and we stripped him of his law license. I say his law degree, I mean his law license, which he no longer has because he lied in court. You can't do that. Now fast forward to where we are today, the same conspiracy theorists that were sort of on the outside looking in, well now they're on the inside.

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And folks are relying on, folks in power are relying on those statements as the pretext for the search that we just saw play out in Fulton County, Georgia. That is dangerous, and it's going to take the courts some time to sort this through.

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