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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Ivana Trump's Legacy Casts a Shadow Over Trump's Birthday

14 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.52 - 28.485 Shannon Maldonado

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I founded Ornot in 2013. I think the best thing about Shopify is that we can practice business without technical skills. We can manage the company's background systems and front-end and sell online. If Shopify was a bicycle equipment, it would be a bicycle itself. That way things are handled and our business is handled in Shopify. Start a free trial at shopify.com.

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87.022 - 114.987 Shannon Maldonado

I am Shannon Maldonado, the founder of the Jaui gift shop, which sells handmade artisan products. I chose Shopify because when I tested the devices, I found them to be one of the easiest to use devices. It was important for me to consider our development in the future. All the tools needed for sales, such as the design of the stock, are in the dashboard. Start the free trial at shopify.com.

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I founded Ornot in 2013. I think the best thing about Shopify is that we can practice business without technical skills. We can manage the company's background and front-end and sell online. If Shopify was a bicycle equipment, it would be a bicycle itself. That way things are handled and our business is handled in Shopify. Start a free trial at shopify.com website.

144.498 - 165.159 Ben Meiselas

Ivana Trump, Donald Trump's first wife, is haunting him from the grave. She's buried in Bedminster, in the back lot of one of Donald Trump's golf courses. She died under very mysterious circumstances in July 2022. She was relatively healthy, but she fell down steps purportedly in July 2022 of her New York City townhouse.

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She was then quickly buried in the back lot of one of Donald Trump's golf courses. How ghoulish. And she was buried in an area under bushes and grass in an area that fell under disrepair. Again, how ghoulish. She obviously knew a lot about Donald Trump's dark past, and she made very serious accusations against Donald Trump about things that Donald Trump did to her.

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And she made these statements under oath in a deposition that she gave in connection with divorce proceedings. She got divorced from Donald Trump. Donald Trump had affairs while they were married, and she gave a deposition where she gave this testimony about Donald Trump. Now, how is this connected to what's happening right now, and how is it haunting Donald Trump?

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Well, a Situation Room emergency meeting was held by J.D. Vance, not once, but multiple times, where Donald Trump's dark past has been addressed in connection with the release of the Epstein files. A New York Times expose bombshell talked about this meeting. According to sources who were there, whether that source is J.D. Vance or people close to J.D.

Chapter 2: How does Ivana Trump's death impact Donald Trump's legacy?

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Chapter 3: What mysterious circumstances surrounded Ivana Trump's death?

755.78 - 782.144 Ben Meiselas

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Right before Ivana died, this was an interview that she gave where she talked about her life. And you look at her right over here and you go, wow, she died shortly after this interview. I'll show you this clip. Let's play it. Do you miss the old life?

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The old life? Life with Donald? I don't, no. Nothing really changed. I have a beautiful home here. I have a spectacular apartment in Miami. I have 300-year-old fisherman houses in harbor of the Saint-Tropez. What more can I have?

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And to remind you how Donald Trump would treat Ivana publicly, here's an interview that they gave when they were on Oprah together. Let's play it. Do you all argue?

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Yes, yes, but not greatly. I'll tell you truthfully, we don't have tremendous fights. We should have world record-setting fights, but we really don't. We get along very well, and there's not a lot of disagreement, because ultimately, Ivana does exactly as I tell her to do. You see, wait a minute.

Chapter 4: What serious accusations did Ivana Trump make against Donald Trump?

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Right, men? Is that right, huh?

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And here's an interview that Ivana gave about her marriage to Donald Trump. And this kind of talk sums up what their relationship was like. Here, play this clip.

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But she didn't just lose her husband. In the same year, Ivana lost the other most important man in her life when her father died suddenly of a heart attack. I was a little bit numb and maybe that helped me also when my father passed away because I just say it just cannot get any worse. It just has to get better.

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You say in the book you thought the divorce perhaps contributed to your father's heart condition. I just know that my father was devastated and my father was humiliated because, you know, I was his pride and joy in his life. I know that he took it very hard. It's just unfortunate it did happen at the time when I did need him most. How did you compensate for that, Ivana? You don't.

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As for her ex, Donald's new life now includes Marla, baby Tiffany, and reflections on why it is not a good idea to put your wife to work for you. When I interviewed him last year, Donald said he regretted having had Ivana run his Atlantic City casinos and the Plaza Hotel. I think that was the single greatest cause of what happened to my marriage with Ivana.

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If I look at it now, I think it was a terrible idea. Ivana would get angry at somebody over the telephone all of a sudden who was at the casino. And she'd start shouting. And I'd say, I don't want my wife shouting at somebody like that. Well, you know, if you go into work and if you have 4,500 employees and the vice president, you cannot be a little pussycat. There was a great softness to Ivana.

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And she still has that softness. But during this period of time, she became an executive, not a wife. Suddenly the whole romance and whole evening goes because, you know, you're talking business and you're talking what has to be done and repaired and this, rather than being romantic with each other.

Chapter 5: How are recent events connected to Donald Trump's dark past?

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Now, even Megyn Kelly, a Donald Trump former bootlicker, turned Trump critic right now in 2026. Here's what she had to say. Let's play this clip. Talk about a glass house.

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I mean... has cheated on every wife he's had. He met Marla Maples while he was still married to the mother of his children, Ivana. It was all over the New York papers. I'm from New York, upstate New York, but I was in New York when this all went down the city. And he was being touted.

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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the Epstein files for Donald Trump?

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He was proud of the affair. It was all over the papers. And by the way, Ivana, his first wife, accused him of raping her. She alleged in her first book that he was so angry over the hair transplant he got that she made him get. It was so painful that he raped her. And she later retracted that when he ran for president. But that stood on the books for some time.

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I don't know whether that's true or not. I'm just saying, clearly not a great relationship there. And then he winds up with Melania and, you know, If you think Trump's been faithful to Melania, okay, that's great. You got bigger issues than I can solve here.

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But so the nerve, like the nerve for him to be judging somebody else's marriage or love relationships or choices, it just shows you like he's got chutzpah, I guess is the word for it, like beyond. And it was really inappropriate. No, it was wrong. What he said was wrong on many levels.

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And then I would be remiss if I didn't mention this as well. Epstein victim Maria Farmer said that Ivana Trump was Ghislaine Maxwell's best friend. Of course, Ghislaine Maxwell being in the news a lot lately as well, as a lot of the reporting from the New York Times expose is, what do we do about Ghislaine? Ghislaine knew through Ivana all of the things that Donald Trump was engaged in.

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So Ivana, Ghislaine were best friends, okay? And part of moving Ghislaine into this Camp Bryant facility is she knew a lot of secrets that Ivana told her. Here's a reminder of what Maria Farmer said about Ivana Trump. Let's play it. And Maria Farmer is one of Epstein's survivor's victims. Let's play it.

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Ivana Trump was like her best friend. Ivana. Yeah, with Ivana then, yeah. Describe that, you know, she'd be there. That was creepy. So at the time, Ivana had this, she was doing QVC, selling jewelry, right, online. I mean, on TV. She was like a QVC queen named Donald Trump. And Donald Trump was always hanging out with Epstein, and Ivana was always hanging out with Elan. Right.

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And Ivana, she would say, we're going to go pick up Ivana or Ivana's going to come. And we'd ride in the car with her. And I remember one occasion where Ghislaine's like, I have to get out right now. And she went and got a number from a child. And I saw her in a uniform. Yeah. Everybody knew what they were doing. Everybody who surrounded them knew exactly what they were doing.

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And how often, did you go for rides often with her and Ivana? Yes. And would she pick up girls all the time? Yes. She didn't bring them in the car, she would get their phone numbers. Right. But she would drive by schools. Right. As they got out. So would she, and what's Ivana doing at this point? Sitting in the car.

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And I'll never forget because one day I was really weirded out by what had happened. I was really weirded out. So, I'm sorry, my phone's beeping in. Just give it a second. But anyway, I've got to go in a second, but I just wanted to tell you. I was weirded out when they were driving around with this.

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