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MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 4/15/25

Tue, 15 Apr 2025

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On today’s episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast: Donald Trump’s Oval Office meeting with El Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele was nothing short of disgraceful. The two strongmen openly defied a U.S. Supreme Court ruling and shrugged off responsibility for returning a wrongly deported man now rotting in a Salvadoran prison camp. Meanwhile, top economists and CEOs are sounding the alarm about a potential recession—or worse—as Trump’s chaotic trade war policies wreak havoc. In Ukraine, a horrifying new attack ordered by Putin is met with silence from Trump, who refuses to condemn his authoritarian ally. And back in the U.S., Bernie Sanders and AOC are drawing massive crowds in key swing states as part of their “Fighting Oligarchy” tour, taking direct aim at Trump and the billionaire class propping him up. Ben, Brett and Jordy discuss all this and much more on a must-hear episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast. Subscribe to Meidas+ at https://meidasplus.com Get Meidas Merch: https://store.meidastouch.com Deals from our sponsors!  VIIA: If you’re 21+, try VIIA during their annual SPRING 420 SALE for Black Friday-level savings up to 35% OFF site wide! Go to https://viia.co/MEIDAS and use code MEIDAS! ProLon L-Nutra: Visit https://ProlonLife.com/MEIDAS to claim your 15% discount and your bonus gift. Armra: Go to https://tryarmra.com/MEIDAS or enter MEIDAS to get 15% off your first order. Miracle Made: Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://trymiracle.com/MEIDAS and use the code MEIDAS to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the controversy surrounding Donald Trump's refusal to comply with the Supreme Court ruling on Abrego Garcia?

0.349 - 25.519 Ben Meiselas

The Trump regime is refusing to comply with the Supreme Court's unanimous 9-0 ruling, ordering them to return Abrego Garcia, a migrant with protected status who the Trump regime kidnapped from Maryland and put in a gulag in El Salvador. In fact, the Trump regime has been pretending that they actually won the Supreme Court ruling when they lost 9-0. And relatedly,

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Chapter 2: Why did Donald Trump host El Salvador's President Nayib Bukele in the Oval Office?

25.879 - 50.87 Ben Meiselas

The Trump regime rolled out the red carpet earlier today for El Salvador's authoritarian leader, Nayib Bukele. Trump was on a hot mic speaking to Bukele, saying that American citizens should be sent to the El Salvador gulags and asking Bukele to build five more facilities so that Americans can be sent there. Sounds pretty dictatorish to me. We'll cover that.

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50.91 - 70.997 Ben Meiselas

We'll also cover other things that went down in Donald Trump's bizarre and dangerous Oval Office press conference, where now he's talking about additional tariffs on pharmaceuticals. What even is the status of these tariffs at this point? The volatility, the exemptions, I'm not sure the American government or the Trump regime

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71.437 - 89.468 Ben Meiselas

even knows what it is we'll talk about that also donald trump's been spending the past 48 hours frankly like he's been spending the past few months in these what are we 75 100 days in a still less than 100 days attacking the president of ukraine president zielinski uh it's particularly

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90.248 - 111.825 Ben Meiselas

morbid what Donald Trump is doing as Ukraine experienced one of the most deadly attacks against it by the invader, by Russia. Two ballistic missiles on Palm Sunday killed 34 innocent Ukrainians, injured about 117 others in the city of Sumy as people were out going to church to celebrate Palm Sunday.

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112.145 - 140.293 Ben Meiselas

donald trump used the time to attack ukraine also a united states special envoy to russia steve whitcoff was there over the past few days in st petersburg russia and in this bizarre photo puts his hand over his heart and shows subservience to putin looks like he's pledging allegiance to putin also let's talk about the fight the oligarchy tour which is taking the country by storm led by senator bernie sanders and congresswoman aoc on saturday about 36 000 people

141.593 - 157.514 Ben Meiselas

showed up in los angeles then senator sanders went to coachella on the main stage spoke to about 125 000 people in coachella they were all booing donald trump when sanders brought up trump's name then on sunday sanders and aoc took the fight the oligarchy tour

157.854 - 182.119 Ben Meiselas

Two, of all places, Utah, where about 10% of the entire Salt Lake City population showed up, filled this arena, 20,000 strong, chanting, tax the rich. That and more on the Midas Touch podcast. I'm Ben Myselis, joined by Brett and Jordy. We've got a lot to discuss today, brothers. Indeed, full-on authoritarian beyond constitutional crisis in the United States. It's an authoritarian regime here.

182.139 - 186.14 Ben Meiselas

The question is, what does the resistance to an authoritarian dictator look like?

186.57 - 199.94 Brett

Yeah, well, it looks like never stopping, never quitting, keeping up the pressure. And that's what we're going to do. It's great to be here with you, brothers. It's great to be here with the Midas Mighty, everybody listening right now on audio, on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, everybody watching right now live on YouTube.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Trump's comments about sending Americans to El Salvador prison camps?

311.687 - 329.538 Ben Meiselas

With Donald Trump, what's up is down and down is up. What's right is left and left is right. It is topsy-turvy, and Donald Trump's view of strength is actually weakness. I mean, you look at who Donald Trump admires the most. Obviously, number one is Vladimir Putin, but then Javier Millay in Argentina, right, where inflation is surging.

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329.838 - 354.731 Ben Meiselas

the poverty rate there what like 40 50 percent in argentina not exactly what you'd want to use as the model for the united states the united states which is supposed to be kind of the icon of stability which donald trump is shattering turning our dollar into basically the trump dollar sign trump mean coin or the dollar sign melania smolania mean coin at this point and who else other than javier malay does donald trump look up to

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355.131 - 380.853 Ben Meiselas

Viktor Orban, who's turned Hungary into like a failed state, contrasts Hungary's just kind of awful economy with a democracy like Poland, which is thriving. Does Donald Trump like Poland? No, Donald Trump likes Hungary. And then you go and you see Nayib Bukele, the leader of El Salvador, and El Salvador is a poor Latin American country. Its entire annual GDP is like $34 billion, right?

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380.913 - 398.145 Ben Meiselas

Donald Trump attacks Canada, says Canada's GDP is like $3 trillion. Donald Trump attacked Europe like real wealthy nations, but Donald Trump loves Nayib Bukele. Why? Because the incarceration rate per capita in El Salvador is the highest anywhere in the world.

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398.605 - 421.835 Ben Meiselas

Trump loves this image of Nayib Bukele sitting there, no tie, looking like this dictator of the modern age, chin lifted up while they talk about torturing human beings. Trump loves the torture. That's why he loves Nayib Bukele. Just showing you other facts about El Salvador. The poverty rate in El Salvador is about 20% to 25%.

423.616 - 441.902 Ben Meiselas

about 10 of the country in el salvador lives in extreme poverty so this isn't exactly the success story that mega republicans want to tell you about but just think about el salvador argentina hungary russia North Korea, right? That's who Donald Trump admires.

441.942 - 457.18 Ben Meiselas

So with Naebu Kelly showing up, I can't but think of the contrast between how Donald Trump attacks our allies in the Oval Office, then the Trump propaganda media that's there would like attack Zelensky for not wearing a suit and tie.

457.58 - 480.137 Ben Meiselas

But here you have the authoritarian leader of a poor Latin American country who's now cut some partnership with Donald Trump so that the Trump regime can kidnap migrants. And soon they want to do this to American citizens, kidnap them, disappear them to El Salvador, torture them and put them in basically an extermination camp where they'll never be heard from or seen ever again.

480.217 - 489.643 Ben Meiselas

Like that's what's going on. Let's use the right language. Let's not mince words about what's actually taking place here. So with that said, Bukele is sitting there with Donald Trump.

Chapter 4: How is Trump's trade war and tariff policy affecting the economy and markets?

Chapter 5: What is the significance of the Fight the Oligarchy Tour led by Bernie Sanders and AOC?

157.854 - 182.119 Ben Meiselas

Two, of all places, Utah, where about 10% of the entire Salt Lake City population showed up, filled this arena, 20,000 strong, chanting, tax the rich. That and more on the Midas Touch podcast. I'm Ben Myselis, joined by Brett and Jordy. We've got a lot to discuss today, brothers. Indeed, full-on authoritarian beyond constitutional crisis in the United States. It's an authoritarian regime here.

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182.139 - 186.14 Ben Meiselas

The question is, what does the resistance to an authoritarian dictator look like?

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186.57 - 199.94 Brett

Yeah, well, it looks like never stopping, never quitting, keeping up the pressure. And that's what we're going to do. It's great to be here with you, brothers. It's great to be here with the Midas Mighty, everybody listening right now on audio, on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, everybody watching right now live on YouTube.

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200.26 - 215.254 Brett

You know, this is another instance where these so-called alarmists, I put that in quotes, the alarmists about Donald Trump are right once again. People have been consistently warning that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. They keep being proven right over and over and over again.

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215.314 - 228.005 Brett

They were right when they said he wouldn't respect the court rulings, right when he said he'd surround himself with these authoritarian strongmen who undermine our institutions. They were right when they said he'd flirt with these foreign governments to enforce his domestic political agenda.

228.085 - 248.57 Brett

And now Trump is out here openly defying a Supreme Court order, floating the idea, at least, of sending US citizens to prison camps in El Salvador. This is the perfect storm of chaos and incompetence that we are seeing with the Trump administration. And there is just so much going on that sometimes it's hard to keep track of it all. He's crashing the economy this day.

248.61 - 266.216 Brett

He's doing this horrific foreign policy thing this day. But, you know, we try to make sense of it all as best we can here and bring you all the data, all the information, because the truth is, you know, in horrifying days like today, you cannot cover your eyes. You cannot cover your ears. You need to actually understand what is going on.

266.236 - 273.679 Brett

You need to be able to sound the alarm to your friends and family. And so we're going to help you guys do that here on the Midas Touch Podcast. Jordy, what's new on your end?

274.188 - 290.844 Jordy

Absolutely, Brad, and continue on with that. You can't cede any ground. You give a guy the inch, you give the guy the inch, he takes your life. We've said that multiple times throughout this podcast, a bunch of episodes. Don't give him anything because what he's doing right now is disgusting.

Chapter 6: How does Trump's admiration for authoritarian leaders impact U.S. foreign policy?

Chapter 7: What is the status and controversy of the Supreme Court ruling and the Trump administration's response?

423.616 - 441.902 Ben Meiselas

about 10 of the country in el salvador lives in extreme poverty so this isn't exactly the success story that mega republicans want to tell you about but just think about el salvador argentina hungary russia North Korea, right? That's who Donald Trump admires.

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441.942 - 457.18 Ben Meiselas

So with Naebu Kelly showing up, I can't but think of the contrast between how Donald Trump attacks our allies in the Oval Office, then the Trump propaganda media that's there would like attack Zelensky for not wearing a suit and tie.

0

457.58 - 480.137 Ben Meiselas

But here you have the authoritarian leader of a poor Latin American country who's now cut some partnership with Donald Trump so that the Trump regime can kidnap migrants. And soon they want to do this to American citizens, kidnap them, disappear them to El Salvador, torture them and put them in basically an extermination camp where they'll never be heard from or seen ever again.

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480.217 - 489.643 Ben Meiselas

Like that's what's going on. Let's use the right language. Let's not mince words about what's actually taking place here. So with that said, Bukele is sitting there with Donald Trump.

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489.663 - 509.661 Ben Meiselas

And for these quote unquote strong men who claim they have all of the power, who are in a partnership with each other, you have Nayib Bukele in the Oval Office getting the VIP treatment saying, there's nothing I can do. I cannot return Abrego Garcia. There's nothing I can do. What are you talking about? Here, watch this gaslighting 101. Let's play it.

509.681 - 512.826 Ben Meiselas

How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States?

512.906 - 530.54 Nayib Bukele

I don't have the power to return him to the United States. Yeah, but I'm not releasing... I mean, we're not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country. I mean, we just turned the murder capital of the world into the safest country in the Western Hemisphere, and you want us to go back into releasing criminals so we can go back to being the murder capital of the world?

530.56 - 532.101 Nayib Bukele

No, that's not going to happen.

532.701 - 535.442 Donald Trump

Well, they'd love to have a criminal released into it.

Chapter 8: How do the hosts evaluate Trump's behavior and character in relation to his administration's actions?

790.997 - 801.608 Donald Trump

I said, homegrowns are next. The homegrowns. You've got to build about five more places. Yeah, that's fair.

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812.179 - 829.739 Ben Meiselas

It's not big enough. So this is a much different. Five more facilities. He says you got to go after the homegrowns next. Brett and Jordy, I want to get your reaction and I want to go through just what this is. I want to read what the Supreme Court actually said so people can hear not my commentary, but the language.

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830.539 - 849.963 Brett

I just think it's all the epitome of evil. And I think it's just so Orwellian to take something that was so clear cut, like a unanimous Supreme Court ruling against the Trump administration, and then try to pretend like it was actually for the Trump administration. I mean, what they're doing right now is what autocratic nations have done throughout history forever.

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850.323 - 863.568 Brett

They lie, they make up fake justifications for their actions, they try to create their own reality. And I got to say this, what we're witnessing right now, it It's a billion times more evil than anything we saw during the Trump administration. This pales in comparison.

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863.869 - 885.246 Brett

We've never seen anything like this throughout all of American history, anything at this level of evil that we are seeing right now with this administration. And it is just sickening to the core, especially hearing that Donald Trump is now trying to go after American citizens, trying to send them to these El Salvadoran prison camps, trying to expand this program. which has been so horrific.

885.266 - 906.785 Brett

I mean, there was the court filing that the Trump administration put today, filed the other day, and they've been incredibly evasive with the district court judge about this issue where the district court judge was simply asking, is Abrego Garcia alive? Is this person still living? We need proof of life. And even the way they answer those questions are just so offensive to me.

907.185 - 917.874 Brett

They say, oh, per what we've heard from the ministry in El Salvador, he is alive. Just all sort of hearsay, not actually saying, yes, we know he's alive. Here's a photo. Here's what we know.

918.274 - 936.621 Brett

They are just trying to toy with the courts here and quite frankly, shame on the Supreme Court because this is what happens when you do these decisions like the immunity decision and you give Donald Trump essentially full power to do whatever the heck he wants. Guess what he's going to do? You think he's going to hold back? No, he's going to say, well, I have immunity from doing anything.

936.661 - 946.045 Brett

What's the Supreme Court going to do? They've already ruled in my favor on immunity. What are these district courts going to do? What's the DOJ going to do? I control them. You gave Donald Trump carte blanche to do this.

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