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Rep. Mike Quigley on Trump’s Capitulation to Putin

21 Aug 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Laskettelimme hiihtolomien hintoja. Ostan nyt talven tarjoushintaiset junaliput. Esimerkiksi Helsinki-Tampere alkaen 4.90 ja Oulu-Helsinki alkaen 14.90. Kampanja voimassa 18. tammikuuta asti. VR. Yhteisellä matkalla.

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Herra budjettiministeri, kuinka neuvottelut sujuivat? Kiteytän lopputuloksen kahteen sanaan. Suk C. Voitteko hieman tarkentaa? Suk C, sau, vaa, mo, no. Mitä nyt hiihtämiseen tarvitaan? Mutta mitä? Sitä, että toimittaja on hyvä ja suk C siitä putkesporttiin. Sieltä saa kaikki hiihtovermeet nyt liikuttavan halvalla. Putkesport.fi What are you doing here? It's time to leave.

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Siitä tietää, että on ollut hyvä loma, kun tekee mieli mennä piiloon. Aurinkotuolin alle, ettei tarvitsisi vielä lähteä. Tjärebori. Lomia, joiden et soisi loppuvan.

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Fox continues to be in a total panic over this disastrous meeting that Donald Trump had in Alaska with Vladimir Putin. Then the meeting that Donald Trump had with the European leaders. And here we are, you know, as we approach August 20th, August 21st. And all of the things that Donald Trump said were going to happen did not happen. He said there was going to be severe consequences if Putin didn't agree to these things. There's no ceasefire. There's no trilateral meeting scheduled. There's nothing.

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Literally, like quite literally none of the objectives that Donald Trump said were going to be achieved were achieved. So then they bring in on Fox the Treasury Secretary. I'm not sure why he's the guy right now who they have on here, but the Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, oh, I think because Donald Trump thinks that Putin just cares about money and if we can just do bribe for bribe, maybe that's how it'll be done. They bring in Treasury Secretary Scott Besson and Besson goes,

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It's a great meeting. The greatest meeting ever. Here's what Bestin said on Fox. Here, play this clip.

Chapter 2: What are the implications of Trump's meeting with Putin?

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Laura, se menee koko ajan takaisin Alaskasta, koska presidentti Trumpi oli hyvä keskustelu presidenttiin Putinin kanssa. Minun mielestäni hän oli presidenttiin Putinin päällä suurin osa tapahtumista loppuun jälkeen. Ja sitten eilen oli hieno keskustelu Zelenskyn kanssa, sitten eurooppalaisen kanssa, ja sitten Ovalta. Hän oli kutsuttu presidenttiin Putinin kanssa, ja olen erittäin optimistinen siitä, että he voivat olla bilateraalissa keskustelussa.

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A bilateral meeting happened in Alaska. Trilateral meeting? You think Putin wants to meet with Zelensky? That's been tried multiple times. Zelensky said, I'm ready to do it. And I'm sure we all watched that. Absolutely. Donald Trump had Putin on his heels. Why do they just say the most brazen and ridiculous...

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How do they do it? It's a talent. Like, how does he get up there and do it? Like, literally. And then you have Besant talk about, you know, look, what we all know is that Trump had a strategy, and he executed that strategy. And Laura Ingraham now pretends that Putin agreed to Article 5-like NATO security guarantees, when Putin and Russia said they absolutely don't agree to these things. Here, play this clip. Why didn't you do it yesterday? So NBC's take on what happened yesterday is that

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president was susceptible to total flattery. That the European leaders were there wooing him, that Zelenski put on the suit, and it was, thank you sir, thank you sir for all your effort. And that's the only reason President Trump was as magnanimous and as open to security guarantees and so forth. You were there. Tell us what we should understand and take away from what happened.

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Well, Laura, again, let's go back to Friday, because the security guarantees go back to Friday, President Trump's meeting with President Putin in Alaska. And President Trump has wanted to end this conflict that never would have started if he had been president. And he convinced President Putin about the security guarantees, that it is what the Europeans call...

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No he didn't. He didn't. He didn't do that. That didn't happen. That never happened. Putin's not agreeing. Putin's state regime media there says that that didn't happen. But here's what Jesse Waters is saying. This is how Fox wants to portray the meeting with our European allies. Here, play this clip.

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The Europeans were sitting around the Resolute desk yesterday like they were waiting for class to start. Trump was giving Europe a geography lesson. He even put up the big beautiful map and sent it home with Zelensky, his homework. If Zelensky can read a map like Trump can read a putt, we'll have a deal in no time.

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Miten Donald Trump tekee puhelun Putinin kanssa, kun hän on Euroopan yksilöiden kanssa? Tämä on, miten Scott Besant kertoo, että Putin sanoi, että voit kutsua minua huomenna tai kutsua minua seuraavaksi 15 minuuttia. Ja sitten Donald Trump puhutti ja sanoi, että kutsutaan sinua ennen kuin menetään nukkumaan, isä. Täältä soittaa tämä kuva. Ja kuten sanoin, olen optimistinen.

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Was Putin up waiting for the call? Did you get the sense? Well, the president gave him the option. I could call you, send a message. And Putin said, well, I'll be up for 15 more minutes or you can call tomorrow. And I think Putin wanted the call that night. So that shows he was eager to hear what the president had to say.

Chapter 3: How does Fox News react to Trump's foreign policy failures?

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Laitetaan esiin demokraattisen puheenjohtajan, Mike Quigley, Illinoisin 5. yliopiston hallitusjohtajana ja yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliopiston yliop

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I think the way Trump world works is, you and I grew up with, I'll believe it when I see it. I think now we live with, I'll see it when I believe it. Forget the reality that's in front of you, it's what you want it to be. Whatever you want it to be, that's what it is, because Trump said so.

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I think we're also on the perch of a new era here. Forget the Truman doctrine, forget the Reagan doctrine, right? Which was, we will always help our allies against Soviet aggression at the time. Now the Trump doctrine. Trump doctrine is, the US will be tough until it's not. And that the invader of a sovereign democratic country

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will be rewarded for their invasion with the land that they took and their war criminal president will not be held accountable. That's kind of the sum and substance of this. There is nothing that should give anyone any hope that there's going to be a resolution for this. And look, we all want peace, but this is appeasement in the worst form. And the reason we were helping and are trying to help Ukraine is

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Same reasons we fought the Second World War to prevent a sovereign democratic country from being wiped off the face of the earth, with the recognition that Putin's aims go well beyond Ukraine, so that this is a strategic as well as a moral imperative for us, and one we're failing at miserably right now.

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It seems that if we were to report accurately on what's taken place Friday, earlier this week with the European allies, what we're seeing across Ukraine, in Kyiv, in Sumy, in Kharkiv, in Zaporizhia,

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Things are worse. Things are appreciably worse. To me that's just what the objective data is. Putin is emboldened. The attacks since Trump has been in office and the killings on innocent Ukrainians have doubled or are getting higher. And we are further away from peace because Putin got what he wanted. Legitimacy. No ceasefire. Continue the war. And now you see Russian tanks...

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having American flags on them and the Russian military bloggers are bragging about that as a troll. That's how I see it. You're closer to the ground. How do you see it? Are we in a worse position now with these meetings?

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We're in a far worse position because it's bought Putin time. Putin has always understood that he wins a war of attrition, not just because he has six times the manpower, but because he treats his troops like cannon fodder, and he can run 40% of his economy into this war machine. And he knows...

Chapter 4: What is Congressman Mike Quigley's perspective on U.S. support for Ukraine?

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What can we do? There's still a lot we can do. There's somewhere between 5 and 8 billion dollars of Russian assets frozen in the US, 300 billion in Europe. We should seize those assets and use them to help Ukraine defend itself and to help Ukraine rebuild after this conflict is over.

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And if there's a bipartisan bill to put additional sanctions on Russia, but really punishing secondary sanctions on those countries still trading with Putin, funding this war machine. Those are two pretty strong things we could do in addition to saying, hey, what would a new supplemental look like? Putin is willing to do a lot, but I think he has a breaking point.

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Trump, when they talk about ending this war, Trump could have ended this war showing Putin again the only thing he understands, and that's strength and resolve. Before we go, anything you think that's not getting enough coverage out there, whether it's about Ukraine, or just another thing that you're seeing out there, that you're like, I think is just important. We have six million subscribers here, just from your vantage point. I want people to remember what...

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When we started this conflict and I was in Ukraine the first time and I stood on the Battlegrounds and I stood on the mass graves and when the maternity hospital was flattened, I talked to the families that had their kids stolen by Russia, taken there, tens of thousands of them and heard of the bloody war crimes. We asked what was victory, right? And victory was...

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Sekuritiiviset varaukset, eikä vihreämmät, auttavat Ukrainan rakentamisen jälkeen, pysyvät Putinin arvokkaita ja saavat teritoriaa takaisin. Nyt mennään puhumaan ehkä yhdestä niistä.

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The rest of the tyrants of the world are watching eagerly to see what we do. And when they see Trump's NATO ambassadors say that no big chunks or sections are going to be given away that haven't been fought or earned on the battlefield. That's Trump's NATO secretary saying in effect that Putin has earned that land because he won it on the battlefield. Well, I'm sure Beijing will find that very interesting as they look again towards Taiwan.

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Ja Xi Jinping testoi Trumpia myös siitä, että ei toivo Taiwanin presidentti lähteä New Yorkiin ja mennä Keski-Amerikkaan. Ja Trumpi lopetti kaveria menemään. Se oli hullua. Trump on vaikea kaveri, kun mennään menemään jonkun lapsen kanssa.

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who's undocumented, right? He can take their mother away from them, right? Break a window in a car and take their mother away, screaming, right? He's a tough guy there. But when he comes up against somebody who's tougher than him, this president is a wimp.

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Congressman Mike Quigley, thanks for joining us. Anytime. Thank you. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. Love this video? Support independent media and unlock exclusive content. Add free videos and custom emojis by becoming a paid member of our YouTube channel today. You can also gift memberships to others. Let's keep growing together.

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