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Trump makes Lutnick Fall Guy in Epstein Dump?!!

01 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent revelations about Howard Lutnick were uncovered in the Epstein files?

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Howard Lutnick deserved this. Howard Lutnick has been utterly exposed in the recent release of a substantial portion of the Epstein files. Still a substantial portion of the Epstein files remain missing, but a good deal of documents was produced on Friday and Howard Lutnick's name appeared over and over again.

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Howard Lutnik and representatives on Lutnik's behalf were sending messages to Jeffrey Epstein and representatives on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein coordinating trips to Epstein's Island. Epstein was donating money to award ceremonies where Howard Lutnik received awards. They were having business interactions with each other.

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They were describing who their nannies were on emails with each other and with each other's representatives. And it seemed that they knew each other fairly well and had consistent interactions. But you see,

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Chapter 2: What contradictions exist between Howard Lutnick's statements and the released documents?

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Howard Lutnick, like the liar that he is, had continued to tell the public that he's had no interactions with Jeffrey Epstein since 2005. And as Howard Lutnick tells the story, which we now know is an utter lie, he says that he and Jeffrey Epstein lived right next to each other in New York City. That part is true.

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Everything else after that now we know is 100% false, like everything else that spews out of Howard Lutnick's mouth. So Howard Lutnick described what he claimed was his first and only interaction with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Lutnick said that Epstein comes over, invites Lutnick to show up at Epstein's townhouse, that Lutnick shows up and Epstein shows Lutnick the massage table and Lutnick says, oh, this is gross. Lutnick says he leaves immediately, goes home and tells his wife, this Jeffrey Epstein guy is a creep. He's disgusting.

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And then Howard Lutnick says, since that one interaction in 2005, I had no interaction with that disgusting human being, not a profession. not a professional, not a personal interaction, no interactions. And recently Howard Luttnick gave an interview with Miranda divine from the New York post where Howard Luttnick spewed those lies over and over again.

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And now when we see the files that were released on Friday, we know what we suspected before that that was an utter lie because everything Luttnick says is a total lie.

Chapter 3: What interactions did Howard Lutnick have with Jeffrey Epstein?

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Let me just show you the portion of the interview with Miranda Devine where Howard Lutnick says, I've never seen that creepy guy ever again. That disgusting guy. He says it like that since 2005. Watch this clip. Let's play it.

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165.133 - 183.08 Howard Lutnick

That I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again. So I was never in the room with him ever. Socially, for business, or even philanthropy. If that guy was there, I wasn't going because he's gross.

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All right, now let's go through some of the emails that were released on Friday. There are some who suspect that Howard Lutnick maybe is the fall guy in these Epstein files. Maybe the plan right here is to put Howard Lutnick out front and center as somebody who was involved with Epstein and make him the face of the regime's closeness with Epstein.

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However, the regime and Donald Trump appear over and over again in the Epstein files. But first, let's take a look at this email right here. This is an email from David Ratner to Jeffrey Epstein. And here's what it says. This email is from November 14th,

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2017 hi jeffrey many thanks for your incredible donation in honor of howard lutnik would you like to take an ad and offer your own words of congratulations in our commemorative journal are you able to join us at the event itself on december 11th and would you like a table inclusive of your generosity? Thank you.

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And this was in response to Jeffrey Epstein writing to someone named John Paulson on November 8th, 2017, saying $50,000 from me. Hope PR is okay. He gave $50,000 to an event where Howard Lutnick was being honored at. How about this email right here? Dated December 19th, 2012 through December 20th of 2012.

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Remember, Howard Lutnick said that he had no communications with Epstein at all, because he said Epstein was disgusting. And he claimed he had no interaction since 2005. Well, let's take a look. Howard Lutnik, email, dated December 19th, 2012. Hi Jeff, we are landing in St. Thomas early Saturday afternoon and planning to head over to St. Bart's Anguilla on Monday at some point.

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Where are you located?

Chapter 4: How did Howard Lutnick describe his relationship with Epstein in interviews?

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What is the exact location for my captain? Does Sunday evening for dinner sound good? I have another couple, Michael and Marcy Lehrman with me on my boat. And each of us has four children, two 16s, two 14s, a 13, a 12, an 11, and a seven-year-old. Thanks, Howard. And then there's a response right here. Jeffrey Epstein to his assistant, Leslie Groff, December 19th.

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Come Saturday or Sunday lunch, little St. James on the map behind Christmas Cove. Then Leslie Groff responds, FYI, I will let you know what he says. She's gonna be reaching out on his behalf to Howard Luttnick about coming to the island and seeing Jeffrey Epstein. How about this email right here? October 3rd, 2013, where you have Jeffrey Epstein to a guy by the name of Richard Kahn.

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It is a resume of Howard Luttnick's nanny. Attached is the resume of Luttnick's nanny. I'm trying to arrange a time via Peter for you to meet her. That's apparently how close they were. They were talking about each other's nannies. How about this email right here? December 21st, 2012, and December 20th, 2012. You have Howard Luttnick to Leslie Groff, who's Epstein's assistant.

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Okay, lunch on Sunday, see you then. Then Leslie Groff to Matthew Luttnick. Seems like a family affair here. Hi, Matthew and Candace. Might you be able to give Redacted a few more details regarding lunch this Sunday? Do you know if it will just be Howard and his wife? Any kids coming along? Will they arrive at Jeffrey Epstein's island via their boat? And around what time is good for them?

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If you could pass along when you know that would be great and see seed here. Or the time that Howard Lutnick invited Jeffrey Epstein to a Hillary Clinton fundraiser at Cantor Fitzgerald in 2015 when Howard Lutnick purported to be a Democrat. But Howard Lutnick's entire life is being a phony, and it's just about proximity to power, and he was positioning himself to get a position of power.

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And also, it appears to deal with issues of his dark past as well. Take a look right here, November 3rd, 2015. This is from Howard Lutnick. I would like to invite you, this is to Epstein's people, I would like to invite you to attend a very intimate fundraising event with Hillary Clinton from 5.30 p.m. to 6.30 p.m. at Cantor Fitzgerald's office on November 1st. Please RSVP. Again, Howard Lutnick.

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to Jeffrey Epstein right there. So now there are stories like this. Howard Lutnick visited Epstein Island, new releases show, but it's important to remember that Howard Lutnick is a complete and utter liar. I showed you the smaller portion of that clip earlier in this video, Let me share with you here when Howard Lutnick speaks with Miranda Devine.

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And here Howard Lutnick talks about that interaction in 2005. And watch what a sociopath is as he lies through his teeth. Watch the ease with which he lies and how he almost enjoys it. It's quite disgusting to watch here playing this clip.

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He was your neighbor for 10 years. How well did you know him?

Chapter 5: What evidence suggests Lutnick may be a scapegoat in the Epstein scandal?

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And so Miranda Devine asks him, she's the reporter from the New York Post, so why do people like Bill Gates and all these other people hang out around him? Howard Lutnick gives an explanation, but maybe are you telling on yourself, Howard Lutnick, because you were hanging out with Epstein at the same time you're talking about others hanging out with Epstein? Here, play this clip.

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I mean, that's an incredible story that you could pick up that he was a pervert.

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799.435 - 801.498 Howard Lutnick

It's gross. That guy's gross.

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Chapter 6: What emails were revealed that implicate Lutnick in Epstein's activities?

802.259 - 809.669 Howard Lutnick

I mean, right with my wife. He's gross. The guy's gross. This was not, oh, the deep nuance of Howard Lutton. This guy's gross.

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Right. So how come Bill Gates and all these other people could hang around him and not see what you saw? Or did they see it and ignore it? No, they participated. Right.

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821.558 - 833.818 Howard Lutnick

That's what his MO was, you know, get a massage, get a massage. And what happened in that massage room, I assume was on video. This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever. blackmailed people. That's how he had money.

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So... So what happened to those videos? Why is there now such a dearth of information when, you know, Donald Trump's people are running the FBI and the DOJ?

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843.957 - 868.917 Howard Lutnick

I assume way back when, they traded those videos in exchange for him getting that 18-month sentence which allowed him to have visits and be out of jail? I mean, he's a serial sex offender. How could he get 18 months and be able to go to his office during the day and have visitors and stuff? It must have been a trade.

869.497 - 877.308 Howard Lutnick

So my assumption, I have no knowledge, but my assumption is there was a trade for the videos, because there were people on those videos.

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And have you talked to Donald Trump about this and shared your theory?

881.655 - 889.84 Howard Lutnick

No, I mean, he knows the story. But like my story that, you know, I was the one that done with the guy. He knows that story, but that's it.

890.08 - 913.117 Ben Meiselas

And now if you watch some of Howard Luttnick's recent interviews about other topics, you start to see, and I think you knew already, just what a absolute sicko this guy is. And I know you're like, Ben, we knew that already. But I think this gives it additional context right here. Here's the recent interview he gave with Jesse Waters on State Regime Media, which calls itself Fox.

Chapter 7: How did Lutnick's past interactions with Epstein contradict his public claims?

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Was that the night that Lutnik was heading there as well? And then you have Elon Musk denying that. Epstein went to SpaceX, but it clearly appears that he went from these emails. And then talk about the cabal. You know how Donald Trump's very close with all these NFL owners and the NFL owners, you know, were all involved in helping Trump the first time getting Kaepernick on and all that.

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Well, this is a NFL owner of the New York Giants, Steve Tisch, who talks about a young Ukrainian woman and asks if she's a pro or a civilian. And they talk about, you know, Epstein facilitating a young Ukrainian girl or woman for Tisch. It's absolutely grotesque what's in here. This is the crew. Do you see that? This isn't speculation anymore.

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These are the people, I'm just reading you what the emails say. And we know that there's still three to four million emails and documents that are still missing that have not been turned over. That's a cabal right there. And it seems that Lutnik is having a lot of explaining to do right now. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Help us get to six million. Thanks for watching.

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