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The Michael Knowles Show

Ep. 1897 - JD Vance DEBUNKS Lie That ICE Arrested 5-Year-Old

23 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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From Amazon MGM Studios comes Melania. Every protocol, every precaution, every move coordinated. This new film takes you inside the 20 days leading up to the 2025 presidential election through the eyes of the First Lady herself. The briefings, the planning, the private conversations. Witness what it takes to secure her return to one of the world's most powerful roles.

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Melania, only in theaters January 30th. The last 24 hours have been revelatory. Republicans have debunked some of the most viral left-wing narratives of the last several months. Did ICE arrest a five-year-old boy? Does the government fund healthcare for illegals? Are misdemeanors crimes? That one should be easier, but I guess it's confusing. The truth emerges from Davos to Minneapolis.

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I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show. Dylan Mulvaney is back. Remember Dylan Mulvaney, the guy who pretends he's a woman and he makes a big show of it. He had the 100 Days of Girlhood TikTok sketch. Anyway, he's back. He's hitting Broadway. He's going to be playing Anne Boleyn. Hasn't Anne Boleyn suffered enough? This is just insult to injury.

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Chapter 2: Did ICE really arrest a five-year-old child?

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Go be a gigachad like Mr. Davey. Go to balanceofnature.com. Just before the show, I'm on my Instagram. I'm not on Instagram that much, but I'm on, I'm looking at stories and what do I see? One of the people I follow posts this story about how ICE, the evil ICE agents, have arrested a five-year-old child. This has been going viral all over social media. Can you imagine?

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We were told that ICE was just going to arrest these criminals, the adults at least, and the murderers and the rapists and the drug dealers. And now they're arresting five-year-old children. How on earth could the administration defend this? Mr. Vice President, the fact that we're standing behind law enforcement and I'm proud of the fact that we're enforcing the country's laws.

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But you know, you asked a question about this five-year-old kid. I actually saw this terrible story while I was coming to Minneapolis. We just left Toledo, Ohio this morning for an economic messaging event. And I see this story And I'm a father of a five-year-old, actually, a five-year-old little boy, and I think to myself, oh my God, this is terrible. How did we arrest a five-year-old?

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Well, I do a little bit more follow-up research. And what I find is that the five-year-old was not arrested, that his dad was an illegal alien, and then when they went to arrest his illegal alien father, the father ran.

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So the story is that ICE detained a five-year-old. Well, what are they supposed to do? Are they supposed to let a five-year-old child freeze to death?

Chapter 3: What does JD Vance say about illegal immigration and law enforcement?

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That is literally what Gavin Newsom is saying. Regardless of your status as a California resident, as an American citizen, we should pay for your health care. Okay, so then why don't we pay for 7 billion people around the world, if that were literally true? Now, if you tried to pin him down on this, he's, wow, that's ridiculous. I don't really mean that. Then what do you mean?

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Then what do you mean? you mean regardless of your status as long as you're from California? Or are you living in California? Well, that's not true. If some Guatemalan illegal alien came from Nevada into California and broke his leg, Gavin Newsom would say we have to pay for that. So what's the limiting principle? He wouldn't give you one. The limiting principle is

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that most Americans believe in is whether or not you're an American citizen. Which is why even the Democrats had to pretend during that whole government shutdown, which occurred for this very reason, they had to pretend that that was in fact the limiting principle. Here is, do we have Hakeem Jeffries?

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717.961 - 735.04 Hakeem Jeffries

Federal law prohibits the use of Medicare, Medicaid, the Children's Health Insurance Program, and the Affordable Care Act to provide health insurance in any way, shape, or form to undocumented immigrants, period, full stop. That's the law, and Democrats aren't trying to change that.

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Not one penny of federal taxpayer dollars goes to the healthcare of illegal aliens. Mark Kelly said the same thing. All these Democrats said the same thing, and yet Gavin Newsom admits it right there. And in fact, at the World Economic Forum, they admit it specifically because he says, look, 14 states give health care to illegal aliens. And how does California do it? Through Medi-Cal.

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What is Medi-Cal? Medi-Cal is the California health care system. So this is where the Democrats are going to try to say, well, no, we said that no federal taxpayer money went to illegal aliens health care. The state taxpayer money might, but that's a lie. Because Medi-Cal is half funded by the federal government, which means it's half funded by the regular American taxpayer.

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because money is fungible. So the argument that they have to make is, no, no, no. Illegal aliens don't receive federal taxpayer dollars for their healthcare because even though they go to a fund, which is half paid for by federal tax dollars, we just make sure that we take their dollars from over here. You know what we do? We keep all the federal tax dollars on the right-hand side of the fund and

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And then we keep all the state taxpayer dollars on the left-hand side of the fund. And we make sure when the illegal alien breaks his leg, when we reach into the fund, we only grab the dollars from the left side. That's not how money works. That's totally ridiculous. This is why this argument that federal taxpayer dollars don't pay for abortions is so ridiculous.

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As long as the federal government funds Planned Parenthood in any way, $1, one penny, federal tax dollars are going to pay for abortions. Because Planned Parenthood would say, well, no, we're just using those dollars to keep the lights on. Yeah, and because you get those dollars to keep the lights on, you can use your other dollars to pay for abortions.

Chapter 4: How does Gavin Newsom address healthcare for undocumented immigrants?

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It's to live truthfully in imaginary circumstances. What Dylan Mulvaney is doing is the opposite of acting. He is living falsely in real circumstances. It's an inversion. It's not that a man can't play a woman. Boys played women in Shakespeare's plays. But they're mistaking the circumstances. They're mistaking the stage for reality and vice versa.

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And then furthermore, Dylan Mulvaney is making everything about himself. It's all about his journey, his transgenderism, his misconceptions of what a woman is. So at a really basic level, it's not about Anne Boleyn. It's not about the play. It's not about telling the story. This is true whatever you do in life.

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If you're a lawyer, if you're a carpenter, if you're a cashier, if you're whatever, there's a good way to do it and a bad way to do it. For any job, whether you're a student, whatever. The good way to do it is to make your job about the goal of the job. You can seek fame and money and power along the way, but the good way to do that is if all of those things are in service of the goal of the job.

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be it to write the law or, I don't know, run the store or to learn the book or whatever. If you make it about the thing, the objective truth, the thing outside of you, the greater good, you'll be doing your job well. If you make it all about you, if you say, you know, I'm going to run for Congress so that I can get really rich and famous. Nancy Pelosi's portfolio is looking pretty good.

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I'm going to get rich and famous. Now you're a bad politician. If you say, I'm going to be in public life and maybe I'll get some fame and maybe I'll get some money, but it will be for writing good laws and advancing the common good. That's the right way to do it. You could do it in any field. And there's a good version and a bad version. That's true even in acting.

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