Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Richard Arnold Murray holds. They spice it up as well. Welcome to Friday, 7 past 6. Not a lot of coverage has been given to the failed appeal by Tony Gibson. Now, he was the head of the Port of Auckland. A worker died, you might remember. He was charged under Health and Safety and found guilty. Now, it was the Health and Safety Act of 2015.
He was the first person of a large corporation to be charged and found guilty under it. Now, this in no way takes away from the tragedy and seriousness of the accident. But... The question for all of us is, can you reasonably hold a single person responsible in a company where so many people, if you were looking to cast a wide net, potentially could also be?
And if you can, what sort of chilling effect does that have around the running of a large company in which you can potentially be held to account for Lord knows what? The court found he had overall responsibility, which in theory is not unfair. It's the buck stops at the top argument. But what about the board?
And what is the point in having management and managerial responsibility if it all eventually gets sheeted back to one person anyway? In a business where safety is a key aspect of operation, you presumably have people and groups or committees that operate procedures and rules. What level, if any, of responsibility do they hold or share?
Can one person really be held to account for the singular accident on a single day in a single incident in a company of hundreds or potentially thousands of people? And if you answer, as the court seems to have, yes, then how does the CEO change the way they approach the running of that particular business? Are they risk-averse? Do they take longer to make decisions?
Does progress get slowed as we guess, second guess, and then guess one more time just in case? Do you overspend or invest in areas just in case? How much sleep do you lose doing all of this? If the rules around being on a board are increasingly arduous, and they are, is making life as a CEO harder productive?
Or is finding a single person culpable for any event in the workplace an easy out of a complex problem, allowing everyone else to wash their hands? News of the world in 90 seconds. Glass half full, you know me, we've got another ceasefire. It has been my honour to solve nine wars across the world and this will be my tenth, so let's get it done.
Add the second round talks likely next week, of course, between the US and Iran and you've got momentum.
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Chapter 2: What are the latest trends in the New Zealand housing market?
No. No, no, and serious under-reporting goes on. Nurses just don't have the time to report this stuff any longer. So, you know, I can say one assault is one assault too many, but essentially these are really grim statistics, and there are some practices being put in place to help, but ultimately we've got a situation where we cannot get help to people in time.
They get upset, they get angry, and nurses face that. In fact, nurses face violence at a rate higher than pretty much any other occupation in New Zealand.
Is this a Western world thing or is there something about us?
I suspect it's common across the world. You know, our contacts overseas say the same thing. We may have peculiar aspects of it in New Zealand, but there is a trend to increasing violence. And when patients are under stress and families are under stress, that's when it's going to come out.
Yeah. Okay, mate. Appreciate it. I don't know what we achieve out of that, apart from depress ourselves on a Friday, but it's bloody, it's unbelievable, believe me. Anyway, Paul Galter, who's the nurses' organisation, Health New Zealand, who we rang and we thought they might be interested in talking to us, aren't. So, good work, guys. 18-2.
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Chapter 3: How does the Middle East conflict affect global economies?
Yes or no? Not to my knowledge. Are you one of them? No. Will you be the leader of the National Party before the election? No. Hand on heart? I won't be the leader of the National Party. What we've got to do is
head down, bum up in the next six months and try and govern this country in very difficult times with the geopolitical instability and the police and fuel crisis and try and set New Zealand up for success into the 2030s and beyond. Do you know anybody within the party who's agitating for Luxembourg to fall? Well, I think it would be fair to say that everyone wants us to do better.
I think that's a statement of reality. And, you know, People want us to do better, and I know the Prime Minister wants us to do better as well. Indeed. So did Luxon ghost Stuart Smith? I don't know. That's the sort of article I have barely read. That's news to me, and I don't know anything about that.
Do you understand that if you roll Luxon or Luxon quits, you're toast and you won't be government? What do you mean by that? If you roll Luxon or Luxon quits, you will lose the election. Well, I think instability is not a good thing, and I think that's the broad point you're making, and we've got to focus on governing this country. We've got a lot of work to do.
This country's in not great shape, and we've got a lot of work to do to improve our fiscal situation and our living standards as a country and deal with this short-term, hopefully short-term, hopefully short-term issue with the fuel situation, but we don't know exactly how long it's going to last for. Do you reckon you wish you got up earlier because you didn't know this was coming?
I suspected you might ask me, Mike. I have had a brief scan of the article, but as I say, I've barely read it properly. Good on you. You can go read it now over that cup of tea. Nice to talk to you. Chris Bishop, Minister of Transport. What do you want to do? You want to go to Gordon? Let's go to Gordon. 13 past. We've got a ceasefire.
We end the week, I think, with real momentum around Epic Fury. More talks between the U.S. and Iran seem probable. Now there's a 10-day ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon. Now Gordon Robison is with us, Middle East expert. Gordon, morning to you. And a good evening from here. Are you optimistic of this?
I would like to be asked that question in maybe another 12 hours. The ceasefire officially goes into effect. just over two hours from now. And there's a long history with these things in the Middle East in general and between the Israelis and the Lebanese in particular. Let's see over the first 12 hours or so how well it holds.
Okay. Is it separate? You'll know what I mean by the question.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the potential National Party coup?
And they're very important in understanding the background to your question, because it's widely assumed that the Labour government will do very badly in the local elections, particularly in Wales and in Scotland. And that could trigger basically a challenge to Starmer's leadership and maybe even lead to a change in prime minister later this year.
Not guaranteed, but that's where the thinking has been. But the general public in the UK has been very anti, shall we say, Donald Trump. So Starmer is trying to play to that. But the challenge is that in terms of diplomacy and in terms of actual defence, the UK has become very reliant. on the US. So it's difficult for the UK to fully divorce itself from what's going on in the States.
And we, in some respects, need to actually be supportive of the US. To actually not support the US because of near-term politics could, in many people's eyes, create longer-term problems. But putting it all together, what we have in the situation is that when you look at it from an economic perspective, there are no easy wins for the UK.
And it's likely that growth will be low, inflation will rise.
And unfortunately, unemployment, which is about 5.4%, could head even higher. So it's not a great backdrop. And similar in some respects to some of the problems you're facing at home in New Zealand.
Not the same scale, but similar sort of storyline.
The Miliband argument over renewables versus the Trump argument over drill, baby, drill. Where does the public sit?
Well, the public's pretty mixed and it does vary by age group. I tend to be in the camp that you need to have a green agenda, but you need to be sensible about it. What this last seven weeks has highlighted is that you need to get the balance right between energy security,
You need to get the balance right between electricity prices coming down, because the UK has electricity prices which are four times higher than those in the States, and also get the balance right with the green agenda.
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