Melanie Naranjo, VP of People at Ethena, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how to handle no’s from your CEO, the questions to ask leadership when you’re interviewing for the top HR role, and why you need to remind fellow execs what you’re optimizing for on the people side. ---- This episode was brought to you by People Leader Accelerator. Learn more here. ---- (3:22) Good news stories (14:50) Melanie’s story (20:38) Melanie was too rigid in her approach early on in her career (23:33) CEOs need to invest time into their HR leaders (27:05) How to handle no’s from your CEO (31:26) Using an agile approach for rolling out manager training (33:57) The power dynamics at play between CEOs and the women of color in HR (36:50) Remove all assumptions and lead with curiosity (39:15) The questions to ask the leadership team when you’re interviewing for the Chief People Officer role (43:30) Reminding leadership what you’re optimizing for on the people side (47:48) Rapid fire questions ---- 📬 Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to get key learnings & career advice from Modern People Leaders 🛎 Follow Melanie Naranjo on LinkedIn 💡 Follow The Modern People Leader on LinkedIn 😊 Follow Daniel Huerta on LinkedIn 😊 Follow Stephen Huerta on LinkedIn

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