Matt Bradburn, Founder of The People Collective, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why the People Ops as a Product movement is picking up steam, how to pilot this approach, and the biggest pitfalls when making the change. ---- This episode was brought to you by Tilt. Learn more at hellotilt.com/mpl. ---- (2:04) Good news stories (6:36) Matt’s career journey (10:56) What The People Collective does (14:00) Why we should be jealous he gets to work at The People Collective (15:35) The possibility of humans and technology working together (19:47) The challenges we’re going to face with AI (24:15) The skills junior employees should be focusing on (29:10) The best CPOs are data-driven, great storytellers, and know how and when to use empathy (34:50) The “People Ops as a Product” movement (45:08) Piloting People Ops as a Product (46:08) How to identify areas to pilot People Ops as a Product (49:05) Biggest pitfalls when moving to People Ops as a Product (55:09) Rapid fire questions ---- 📬 Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to get key learnings & career advice from Modern People Leaders 💡 Follow The Modern People Leader on LinkedIn 😊 Follow Daniel Huerta on LinkedIn 😊 Follow Stephen Huerta on LinkedIn

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