Brandon Sammut, Chief People Officer at Zapier, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about Zapier’s secondment program, how they build awareness of different talent pathways, and how to build bridges with your CEO. Timestamps: (4:58) Wanting to find better ways of mapping people’s capabilities to opportunities that help them realize their potential (13:28) Why we should be jealous Brandon gets to work at Zapier (15:30) Zapier’s secondment program (18:10) Their cultural instinct to redeploy talent & being a bootstrapped company (21:20) How Zapier has redeployed their TA team (24:25) Progress over perfection (26:55) Advice Brandon would give to HR leaders trying to get their internal mobility programs started (30:26) The talent pathways they’ve built at Zapier (35:00) ‘Career Pathways’ at Zapier (36:46) How they build awareness of their talent pathways (39:25) Having a CEO that understands the importance of these programs (42:26) Bridge building with your CEO (47:04) Transparency without context is sometimes unhelpful (49:21) Brandon’s definition of a Modern People Leader (49:55) The career advice he’d give his 22-year-old self (51:03) Shoutouts to the Zapier team Come hang out with us at Transform. Get $200 off your ticket here: https://transform.us/modern-people-leader/ Subscribe to the MPL Weekly Digest: https://forms.gle/qdt6YaWULfoEHb6n8 Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-modern-people-leader

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