the morning shakeout podcast
Episodes
Episode 249 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on Like the Wind U.S., Fresh Starts, and Cultural Differences in Running
09 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder and publisher of my favorite running magazine,&n...
Episode 248 | Devin Kelly on His New Novel, Exploring His Obsessions, and Committing to a Daily Practice
03 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with runner and writer Devin Kelly to discuss his new novel, Pilgrims, and also talk about his process, his use of repetition thro...
Episode 247: Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on When to Push Hard and When to Pull Back
24 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder and publisher of my favorite running magazine,&n...
Episode 246 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on Teamwork and Support Crews in Running, Business, and Life
28 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder and publisher of my favorite running magazine,&n...
Bonus Pod: Reflecting on 500 Issues of the morning shakeout Newsletter
10 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week on the podcast I sit down with my right-hand man Chris Douglas to discuss the history of the morning shakeout email newsletter, which just c...
Episode 245 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on "Peak Running," Event Hype, and Fundamentals Over Fads
31 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder and publisher of my favorite running magazine,&n...
Episode 244: Ask Mario Anything
06 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week on the podcast I sit down with my right-hand man Chris Douglas and answer reader and listener questions about dream podcast guests, training...
Episode 243 | Sebastian Junger on Running, Writing, and Not Negotiating With Yourself
28 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sebastian Junger is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Perfect Storm, Fire, A Death in Belmont, War, Tribe, Freedom, and In My Time of Dy...
Episode 242 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on The Importance of Making Time for Quiet, Creating Space, and Slowing Down
28 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder, editor, and publisher of my favorite running ma...
Episode 241 | Ben Rosario on The Marathon Project, Entrepreneurship, and The Third Running Boom
27 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Rosario has worn a lot of hats in the sport and industry of running: professional athlete and two-time U.S. Olympic Trials Marathon qualifier, co-...
Episode 240 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on the Different and Evolving Reasons Why We Run
01 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder, editor, and publisher of my favorite running ma...
Episode 239 | Vincent Bouillard on UTMB, His Life in Sport, and What's Next
05 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Vincent Bouillard was the surprise winner (to some, anyway!) of the 2024 Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc, the most prestigious ultramarathon trail race in t...
Episode 238 | Ask Mario Anything
14 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week on the podcast I sat down with my right-hand man Chris Douglas and answered reader and listener questions about the updated Boston Marathon ...
Episode 237 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on Navigating Pressure
02 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder, editor, and publisher of my favorite running ma...
Episode 236 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on Change, Priorities, Values, and Quality
18 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This latest episode is my quarterly conversation with Like the Wind magazine co-founder and editor Simon Freeman. We recorded the episode back in Apri...
Episode 235 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on What We Can Learn From The Pros (And Vice Versa)
05 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder, editor, and publisher of my favorite running ma...
Episode 234 | Jennifer Baskerville-Burrows on Run Crew Culture and Connection
19 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week's conversation with Jennifer Baskerville-Burrows is a follow-up to Episode 226, which was released back in August. In this one, we discuss h...
Episode 233 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on Seasonality and Consistency in Running
27 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder, editor, and publisher of my favorite running magazin...
Episode 232 | Ask Mario Anything
21 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week, I sat down with my right-hand man Chris Douglas and answered questions about the Olympic Trials Marathon start-time controversy, things I’...
Episode 231 | Megan Young on Coaching, Learning, and Living a High-Performance Lifestyle
31 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week's episode of the podcast with Megan Young, Performance Coach with the Seattle Sounders professional soccer club. Megan is a rockstar with 15...
Episode 230 | Stuart McMillan on Systems Thinking, Creativity, and the "Philosopher-Coach"
09 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week's episode of the podcast is with Stuart McMillan, widely regarded as one of the best sprint coaches in the world. Stu has worked with both p...
Episode 229 | Don Swartz on Coaching, Innovating, and Developing a Winner's Mindset
26 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week I had an awesome conversation with Don Swartz, who coaches my wife’s Masters swimming program at North Bay Aquatics in Marin County, Calif...
Episode 228 | Brad Stulberg on Performance Coaching and Mastering Change
12 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week I had a wonderful conversation with my good friend Brad Stulberg. Brad, who works as a writer and performance coach, is my first four-time g...
Episode 227 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on Defining Yourself as a Runner
28 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and three-time podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder, editor, and publisher of my favorite running magaz...
Episode 226 | Jennifer Baskerville-Burrows on Community and Belonging
15 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jennifer Baskerville-Burrows is a runner and serves as Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Indianapolis. I’ve always appreciated her perspective on r...
Episode 225 | Ask Mario Anything
13 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week, my right-hand man Chris Douglas serves me up some listener questions in an old-school Ask Mario Anything episode of the podcast. In this on...
Episode 224 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on Working with a Coach
30 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
I recently sat down with my good friend and three-time podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder, editor, and publisher of my favorite running magaz...
Episode 223 | Randy Ashley on Coaching High School Runners
16 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
My guest on the podcast this week is my friend Randy Ashley, one of the most incredible, unassuming, and relatively unheralded coaches I know. He’s ...
Episode 222 | Starla Garcia on Fueling For Running, Performance, and Recovery
25 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This episode of the podcast is the fourth installment of a new 4-part series I’m calling Pillars of Performance. The main objective behind this seri...
Episode 221 | Dr. Justin Ross on Playing the Mental Game as a Runner
11 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This episode of the podcast is the third installment of a new 4-part series I’m calling Pillars of Performance. The main objective behind this serie...
Episode 220 | Anh Bui, DPT, on Getting Strong, Staying Healthy, and Running Resiliently
27 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This episode of the podcast is the second installment of a new 4-part series I’m calling Pillars of Performance. The main objective behind this seri...
Episode 219 | Mark Coogan on Training Strategies for the Mile to the Marathon
13 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This episode of the podcast is the first installment of a new 4-part series I’m calling Pillars of Performance. The main objective behind this serie...
Episode 218 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on Emerging Brands and Trends in Running
28 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week, I sat down with my good friend and two-time podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder, editor, and publisher of my favorite running ...
Episode 217 | Best of 2022
27 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This final episode of 2022 is a compilation of highlights from 12 of the most impactful conversations I’ve had over the past 12 months. As I’ve wr...
Common Ground | Episode 11
23 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’m excited to bring you the 11th and final installment of Common Ground for 2022, a monthly podcast co-hosted by me and Dinée Dorame of the Ground...
Re-Run with Bria Wetsch
20 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s Re-Run is with Bria Wetsch, who just a few weeks ago finished fourth at the U.S. Marathon Championships at CIM in a new personal best of...
Re-Run with Mike Smith
13 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
It’s been a busy fall and I haven’t been recording many new episodes of the podcast these last couple of months, so I’m re-running a few of my f...
Re-Run with Chelsea Sodaro
06 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week I’m re-running a conversation I had over three years ago with Chelsea Sodaro, who recently won the Ironman World Championships in Kona. Wh...
Common Ground | Episode 10
29 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’m excited to bring you the 10th installment of Common Ground, a monthly podcast co-hosted by me and Dinée Dorame of the Grounded Podcast. In this...
Re-Run with Fernando Cabada
21 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Heading into this holiday week we’re going to re-run one of my favorite episodes of the podcast from years past. This one is from January 2020 and i...
The Weekly Rundown with Billy Yang and Brendan Leonard
15 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week I’m sharing the latest episode of the Weekly Rundown, which is usually a Patreon-only podcast that I co-host with my friend Billy Yang. We...
Episode 216 | Jake Wightman
08 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’m excited to share the recording from my live show in New York City this past Saturday with reigning world 1500m champion Jake Wightman of Great B...
Common Ground | Episode 9
01 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’m excited to bring you the 9th installment of Common Ground, a monthly podcast co-hosted by me and Dinée Dorame of the Grounded Podcast. In this ...
Episode 215 | Marielle Hall
25 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week I spoke with Olympian Marielle Hall, who represented the U.S. in the 10,000m at the Rio Games in 2016. She’s also a four-time world champi...
Episode 214 | Chris Mosier
18 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s episode is with Chris Mosier. Chris is a hall of fame triathlete, an All-American duathlete, a 6-time member of Team USA, and a two-time...
Episode 213 | Alison Mariella Désir
11 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’ve got a great episode for you this week with Alison Mariella Désir, who is making her second appearance on the podcast. If you missed our first ...
Common Ground | Episode 8
03 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I am super excited about this episode of Common Ground, a monthly podcast co-hosted by me and Dinée Dorame of the Grounded Podcast. It’s one we’v...
Re-Run with Deena Kastor
26 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week I’m re-sharing a conversation that I had in 2018 with Deena Kastor, which we recorded at her kitchen table in Mammoth Lakes, California. I...
Re-Run with Diljeet Taylor
19 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’m traveling this week and don’t have a new episode of the podcast for you but I want to take this opportunity to re-run one of my favorite conve...
Episode 212 | Ruben Sança
13 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s episode is with Ruben Sança. Ruben and I go back a ways: When I was a senior at Stonehill College we recruited him pretty hard to come ...
Episode 211 | Brendan Leonard
06 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I am super excited to share this episode with all of you. It’s with Brendan Leonard, an ultrarunner, writer, award-winning filmmaker, speaker, and c...
Common Ground | Episode 7
30 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’m excited to bring you the 7th installment of Common Ground, a monthly podcast co-hosted by me and Dinée Dorame of the Grounded Podcast. In this ...
Re-Run with Katie Arnold
23 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I am on a little bit of a hiatus from recording new episodes of the podcast so I’m taking this time as an opportunity to re-run some of my favorites...
Re-Run with Karen Boen
15 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s re-run episode is an incredibly special one to me. It’s with my college cross country and track coach, Karen Boen, who is someone that...
Re-Run with Lindsay Flanagan
08 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I do not have a new conversation to share with you this week but I am going to re-run a previous episode of the podcast with Lindsay Flanagan that was...
Episode 210 | Peter Gilmore
01 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s episode is a long one but it’s a pretty special conversation with one of my first post-collegiate running heroes, Peter Gilmore—who,...
Common Ground | Episode 6
25 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In the sixth installment of Common Ground, a monthly podcast co-hosted by me and Dinée Dorame of the Grounded Podcast, we shared our respective ...
Episode 209 | Steve Magness
19 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s guest, making his second appearance on the podcast, is Steve Magness. Check him out back on Episode 156 if you haven’t already as it’...
Episode 208 | Diane Nukuri
12 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s conversation is with Diane Nukuri, a three-time Olympian for Burundi whose career I’ve been following for 22 years now. Diane is an in...
Episode 207 | Marquis Bowden
04 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s conversation is with Marquis Bowden, who you may remember from Episode 132 back in the fall of 2020. Since that time nearly two years ag...
Common Ground | Episode 5
28 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In the fifth installment of Common Ground, a monthly podcast co-hosted by me and Dinée Dorame of the Grounded Podcast, Dinée tells us all about...
Episode 206 | Sid Baptista
21 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
My guest this week is Sid Baptista. Sid’s a lot of things: he’s a husband and a father, a runner, a community builder and leader, and also an entr...
Episode 205 | Simon Freeman
13 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
My guest this week, making his second appearance on the podcast, is Simon Freeman. Simon is the co-founder, editor, and publisher of my favorite runni...
Episode 204 | Tommie Runz
06 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
My guest this week is Tommie Runz. I met Tommie back in April at the Racers Roundtable that I hosted and he participated in a few days before the Bost...
Common Ground | Episode 4
30 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In the fourth installment of Common Ground, a monthly podcast co-hosted by me and Dinée Dorame of the Grounded Podcast, Dinée has a lot of exci...
Re-Run with Frank Gagliano
23 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week we’re kicking it back to Episode 64 with Frank Gagliano, one of the greatest track coaches of all-time, which was recorded three years ago...
Re-Run with Laura Schmitt
17 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’ll be re-running a couple of my favorite episodes from years past in the feed this week and next and we’ll start by kicking it back to Episode 1...
Episode 203 | Jinghuan Liu Tervalon
09 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Jinghuan Liu Tervalon is a mother and a runner from Southern California. She started running 14 years ago to deal with heartache and to do something f...
Episode 202 | Tommy Rivers Puzey
02 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’m not even sure how to set up this episode with Tommy Rivers Puzey so I’ll just tell you that it’s a long, winding, and at times heavy convers...
Common Ground | Episode 3
26 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In the third installment of Common Ground, a monthly podcast co-hosted by me and Dinee Dorame of the Grounded Podcast, we catch up on all things Bosto...
Episode 201 | Racers' Roundtable
19 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’m excited to share the Racers’ Roundtable I hosted at Tracksmith’s Trackhouse this past Friday with guests Tommie Runz, Erica Stanley-Dot...
Episode 200 | Mario Fraioli
11 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week I sit down with Chris Douglas, my right-hand man and sponsorship director for the morning shakeout, and he interviews me for the 200th ...
Episode 199 | Ben Rosario and Matt Fitzgerald
05 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week on the podcast I had an awesome conversation with Ben Rosario, head coach of HOKA Northern Arizona Elite, and Matt Fitzgerald, co-founder of...
Common Ground | Episode 2
28 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
We are back with the second installment of our monthly cross-cast series that I’m co-hosting with Dinee Dorame of the Grounded Podcast, and in this ...
Episode 198 | Nell Rojas
21 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I recently had a conversation with Nell Rojas, 6th-place finisher and top American at last fall’s Boston Marathon. She’s currently getting ready t...
Episode 197 | Phil Shin
15 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This conversation with Phil Shin is one of the most meaningful and impactful exchanges I’ve ever had for the podcast. Please listen to it—all 2 ho...
Episode 196 | Russell Dinkins
08 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’ve been waiting to have this conversation with Russell Dinkins for a while now and it did not disappoint. Over the past couple of years this man h...
Common Ground | Episode 1
01 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I’m super excited to share the first episode in what will be a monthly series I’m co-hosting with Dinée Dorame of the Grounded Podcast. I met Din...
Episode 195 | Hellah Sidibe
22 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Hellah Sidibe is a former pro soccer player turned runner who strives to inspire and change lives through sharing his life experiences. Last year he b...
Episode 194 | Amy Leedham
14 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Amy Leedham is my friend, she’s one of my athletes, she’s a wife and a mom, and a badass runner to boot. We recorded this conversation in-person a...
Episode 193 | Ted Metellus
07 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Ted Metellus is my former Competitor Group colleague, current race director for the New York City Marathon, and just one of the best people in the ent...
Episode 192 | Ask Mario Anything #10
01 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week on the podcast I’m answering listener questions in the first and last Ask Mario Anything episode of 2022. (Fear not! You can still submit ...
Episode 191 | Luis Grijalva
25 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This is the first podcast Luis Grijalva has ever been on and he’s got a great story to tell. Luis is a 22-year-old Olympian for Guatemala and finish...
Episode 190 | Bolota Asmerom
18 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Bolota Asmerom is an Eritrean-American who has called the United States home since the age of 10. The 43-year-old represented his home country of Erit...
Episode 189 | Kate Grace
11 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Kate Grace is a lot of things, not least of which is 2016 Olympian in the 800m and one of the top middle-distance runners in the U.S. for much of the ...
Episode 188 | Dylan Bowman
03 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I recently got on the mic with my friend Dylan Bowman, who first appeared on the podcast back on Episode 14 in 2018, and we caught up with one another...
Episode 187 | Best of 2021
27 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
The 50th episode of the year is a “best of” compilation of highlights from 12 of the most impactful conversations that I’ve had over the past 12...
Re-Run with Aliphine Tuliamuk
21 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We’re taking the next couple weeks off to recharge so we’re re-running one of my favorite episodes from the early days of the podcast, a conversat...
Episode 186 | Ken Rideout
13 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“I think that that’s one of the most important or significant traits that you can have—as a runner, an athlete, a human, a colleague, a dad, a h...
Episode 185 | Ryan Holiday
07 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“To me, what grit is is not despairing and not giving up just because things are really hard or because things are going really, really poorly. The ...
Episode 184 | Ask Mario Anything #9
30 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“I’m not a high mileage advocate. I’m not a low mileage advocate. I’m a right mileage advocate. Find the right mileage that works for you—th...
Episode 183 | Alex Varner
22 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“It’s hard to look back and see what resulted despite your best efforts. You know, sh*t doesn’t go the way you want it to all the time. You can’...
Episode 182 | J.M. Thompson
16 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“It’s possible to have a dysfunctional, unhealthy relationship to anything, right? So I would invite people to look at their own relationship to w...
Episode 181 | Jenny Maxwell
08 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“I’ve always had an entrepreneurial spirit. When I was a little girl I was selling lollipops at school. I had this relative who had these big loll...
Episode 180 | Leidy Klotz
01 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“The thing that I’ve realized I like about competitiveness is that, yes, it’s fun to beat other people in a soccer game and that’s one measure...
Episode 179 | George Hirsch
25 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“If there’s stressful stuff, and who doesn’t have that, the run eases it. It absolutely does. We hear this, of course, from lots of people, and ...
Episode 178 | Dana Giordano
18 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“My goals and expectations when I joined the team was committing to the Olympic Trials…but we were all changed through the pandemic. Who I am as a...
Episode 177 | Bill Rodgers
12 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“Talent is an interesting question. What is it really? It means, can you avoid injuries? It means, can you back off? When you get crushed, will you ...
Episode 176 | Ask Mario Anything #8
04 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“I mean, the work’s done at this point. I can’t gain any appreciable fitness between now and race day. I could screw up a lot if I’m not caref...
Episode 175 | Peter Bromka
27 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“If all that mattered to me was [to run] the best time possible in two weeks then yes, I’d probably go into the other field and just run with some...