Be it resolved, anti-Zionism is antisemitism
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What is the definition of Zionism and anti‑Zionism used in this debate?
No Jews are hated not for their religion. or their race, but for having a state.
This motion is not about whether you are pro-Israel or pro-Zionist. It's about whether the rest of us have the right, the freedom, to
take
a
different view. Zionism means national supremacy of one people over the other.
Why, when it comes to the Jews, would you let the anti Zionists define anti-Zionism? No, ladies and gentlemen, no minority should have its identity dictated to it.
Welcome to this special edition of the Monk Debates Podcast. This week, for the first time on our podcast, we're airing the full-length edition of the Monk Debate on Anti-Zionism, which took place in June 2024, eight months after the October seventh Hamas attack on Israel. and seven months after the start of Israel's war in Gaza. Suffice to say, tensions were high and this debate was one of the most heated in the history of our series. The debate resolution, be it resolved, anti Zionism is anti Semitism. Arguing for the motion was award winning journalist, best selling author, and former monk debater Douglas Murray. His debate partner was Natasha Hausdorf. She's an attorney, international law expert.
and legal director for UK Lawyers for Israel Charitable Trust. Opposing the resolution was Medi Hassan. Medi's a best selling author, former MSNBC anchor, and the CEO and editor in chief of Zoteo. He was joined on the stage by award-winning journalist and Ha'aretz columnist Gideon Levy. As with all of our monk debates, the audience voted on the resolution prior to hearing the debate. Initially, 61% of attendees were in favor of the motion, 39% opposed. We did another poll after the debate to find out if people had changed their minds. We'll bring you those results, but first let's listen to Listen to the debate in progress with Douglas Murray. Giving his opening statement in favor of the motion, be it resolved, anti Zionism is anti Semitism.
Mm. Well thank you very much, Rodyad. It's a great pleasure to be back. at the monk debates. When I was last here couple of years ago, I just returned from the front line of the war. In Ukraine, where I was with the Ukrainian armed forces. And for most of the last eight months, I've been in Ізраїль Газа. Following the war there as close as I can. And I won't go into All the details now that I could give you. Of what's happening. But I would just put it in perspective in this way, first of all. What happened on the seventh of October? Возврат масів атак о іноценпі інсайд Ізраїл. It was the equivalent to about six thousand Canadians being massacred and burned in their homes in one day.
It's the equivalent of about one and a half thousand of your fellow Canadians being taken hostage. You know You would have thought after an attack like the one that Hamas instigated that started this terrible war, you would have thought that there would be some Sympathy for the world from the world. You might have thought the world would pay attention to the attack and at least pay attention to the people behind it. You might have expected, like me, that there might have been a worldwide opposition to the terrorists and rapists and murderers of Hamas. You might have thought there would be hatred around the world erupting. the government of Qatar And its mouthpiece in Al Jazeera, its funding of Hamas and its hosting of the leadership of Hamas in Qatar.
You might have thought there'd have been an outpouring of rage at the Islamic revolutionary government in Tehran. But no. There was an immediate outpouring of rage against the state that had been attacked. Bring back our girls we had ten years ago in the war in Nig northern Nigeria, which I also covered. Bring back our girls. No international campaign saying bring back our Jewish children. Believe all women, we've been told, for years, but turns out not if the raped women are Jews. Israel is the only country in the world which when it's attacked gets attacked more. You know, the interesting thing about anti-Semitism is as my late friend Jonathan Sachs said, it's a shape-shifting virus.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the definition of Zionism and anti‑Zionism used in this debate?
0:03–12:39
2
How does Douglas Murray argue that anti‑Zionism is a form of anti‑Semitism?
12:39–26:07
3
What points does Mehdi Hasan make to separate anti‑Zionism from anti‑Semitism?
26:07–40:00
4
How do the participants rebut each other's opening statements?
40:00–50:56
5
What historical background (Balfour Declaration, early Zionism) is presented to frame the issue?
50:56–1:03:11
6
Why are college campuses becoming flashpoints for the anti‑Zionism vs. anti‑Semitism debate?
1:03:11–1:16:59
7
How is international law invoked regarding war crimes and the Israel‑Gaza conflict?
1:16:59–1:28:08
8
What are the final arguments and how does the audience vote on the resolution?
1:28:08–1:39:34
Speakers
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