Daniyal Mueenuddin joins Deborah Treisman to discuss “Two Pilgrims,” by Peter Taylor, which was published in The New Yorker in 1963. Mueenuddin is the author of the novel “This Is Where the Serpent Lives,” which was published in January, and the story collection “In Other Rooms, Other Wonders,” which was published in 2009 and won both the Story Prize and the Commonwealth Writers’ Prize. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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