Eliza Griswold joins Kevin Young to discuss her poetry sequence "First Person," featured on newyorker.com. Griswold is a poet and journalist who has contributed to The New Yorker since 2003. She is the author of, most recently, "Amity and Prosperity: One Family and the Fracturing of America," which won the 2019 Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction. Her new poetry collection, "If Men, Then," will be published in 2020. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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