Does Every Marriage Need a Prenup?
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This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker. This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. In olden times, meaning about a decade ago, asking your intended spouse to sign a financial agreement, a prenup, carried with it a whiff of scandal, I think. This was a plot line from Seinfeld. George Costanza asked his fiancée Susan to sign a prenup, hoping she'd get so mad that she'd be the one to call off their wedding. A prenup?
Yeah. What's so funny? You don't have any money. I make more money than you do. Yeah, give me the papers. I'll sign them.
But times have changed. Jennifer Wilson just reported a piece on prenups for The New Yorker.
Why have prenups become more popular among millennials?
And during her reporting, she found that younger couples now embrace prenups wholeheartedly for a whole complicated mix of reasons. So, Jen, what got you interested in writing about prenups in the first place?
You know, I just noticed that suddenly they were everywhere. They were all over TikTok. There's this really prominent financial influencer named Your Rich BFF. Her actual name is Vivian, too. And she did this video, you know, what's in my prenup and what's in my purse.
So for a prenup, we went 50-50 on everything that we brought to the marriage, 50-50 on everything we'd earned during the marriage, and the only exception was a 100% carve-out of the equity in my business.
You know, I sort of thought all the comments would be kind of mocking her or calling her privileged, but everyone was very supportive. You know, everyone needs a prenup these days. Okay, wait a minute.
When I was young, the only people that got prenups were Aristotle Onassis and Jackie Kennedy. Or movie star X or, you know, some gazillionaire on Fifth Avenue. When did that change? When did that start to change?
What really changed things was no-fault divorce. So, you know, by the 1980s when millennials were being born, most states had adopted no-fault divorce. So 25 percent of millennials grew up with parents who were divorced or separated. So, you know, one of the people I interviewed was this woman who calls herself the prenup coach. Her name is Kaylin Dillon. She's a financial advisor. In Kansas. And she said, you know, this generation just doesn't believe in marriage in the same way. They don't trust it. They want, you know, they want everything in writing. I mean, and everything. I did not know all the things that could go into a prenup. One person who's really made divorce law glamorous, if you can say that.
is Laura Wasser. She's a celebrity divorce attorney. She represented Kim Kardashian in her divorces. She's also an advisor for Hello Prenup. And she recommends that couples get a prenup or at least consider getting a prenup because the conversations about money and about, you know, what the laws, the existing laws already are, can be really educational. And here's what she told me about that.
What I say is everyone should have a conversation about a prenup because so many people say, oh, God, you're getting a prenup. That's so unromantic. That's like pre negotiating your divorce. Why do you want to enter into a contract that governs your marriage? What they're not thinking about is they already are entering into a contract that governs their marriage. And so even having those conversations. pre-prenup discussions where you go, okay, we're getting married. And from the day that we get married, November 18th forward, every dollar that I make is 50 cents yours. And they also don't know my retirement account that I'm going to contribute to during the marriage. You're going to get half of what I contributed during the marriage if we split up.
They don't know that's the law. So they're getting married. If they don't have a prenup conversation, they're getting married, entering into a contract that they may not like the terms of so much. even if they are young and just starting out. What are you seeing in those prenups? What does a millennial prenup look like to you? I think that they're probably better thought out.
What factors led to the rise of prenups in modern relationships?
I think they're approached with less resentment.
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Chapters
6 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–1:06
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Why have prenups become more popular among millennials?
1:06–4:22
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What factors led to the rise of prenups in modern relationships?
4:22–8:12
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How do millennials view marriage differently than previous generations?
8:12–9:58
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What unique clauses are now included in modern prenups?
9:58–10:51
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How can prenups help couples navigate financial discussions?
10:51–19:49
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