Spygate 2.0: Should Play-Off Final be CANCELLED? - The Sports Agents

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What led to Southampton's expulsion from the Championship playoff final?

Gabby Logan 0:02
This is a Global Player original podcast. That article had been put in place legally and, of course, broken down. And I would like to think they put it in thinking, well, no one's going to be daft enough to do that again. Pointing out Leeds, pointing out Chelsea, pointing out other football clubs. Again, does not wash. Is it any form of advantage? Football's not four days of five-a-sides and set pieces on a Friday anymore.
Tom Murray 0:24
Do Hull have a legal case at all? Well, their owner certainly thinks so.
Gabby Logan 0:29
The minute you scratch that away, that eats away at the integrity of the game, it eats away at the popularity of the game and the magic of the game.
David Prutton 0:43
Welcome to the Sports Agents. We're talking Southampton today. Espionage. It's cost £200 million so far to the club. This sounds like a story that Ian Fleming should be writing. And this is the season that just keeps on giving. At the tail of the Championship Playoffs, Southampton's failed attempt to appeal their expulsion from that final means that Middlesbrough will be heading to Wembley to take on Hull University. in football's richest game. But how have we got here? What is the legality of that punishment? What are the ramifications? Where's the fallout coming on that? Whose heads are going to roll? And is there anybody we should be feeling sorry for here? Just before we get into our guest today, a quick reminder, you can catch up with all our previous episodes on YouTube, Global Player or wherever you get your podcasts.
David Prutton 1:28
And please do follow, subscribe and leave a review if you can. We're going to be speaking to David Pratton, former Saints midfielder, and Tom Murray, who is co-founder of Three Points Law. So we've got the passionate football person and the legal brain to disseminate this incredible story. OK, so let's start with stating what we know. And the latest, which is this morning, the Football Association has confirmed it's launched an investigation into Southampton's conduct after the club admitted spying on three clubs in the championship this season. Southampton's appeal against being thrown out of the championship playoff final on Saturday has been rejected. The match is going to go ahead, as we know, between Hull and Middlesbrough Hull City at 3.30 on Saturday.
David Prutton 2:13
The punishment shocked many, both in the legal world and the football world. But is it a punishment that fits the crime? And I think we might have... different answers on this one. So let's start with the legal answer to this. And I think, Tom, you didn't see this being quite as draconian and heavy as it is.
Tom Murray 2:33
Yeah, I think it took many people by surprise, me included. So my prediction on this was that we would follow a similar precedent to what happened in Leeds, which was a £200,000 fine and a slap on the wrist.

What are the legal implications of Southampton's spying scandal?

Tom Murray 2:43
I think many people in football were surprised by this. I think that perhaps the difference and the distinction to be drawn between what happened in Leeds and what happened here is that following the Leeds scandal, there was a new regulation that was introduced in the EFL regulations which prevented spying or attempting to spy. And here we have a very you know, a very clear regulation that states what you can and can't do. Everyone was aware of the potential ramifications. And the other big distinction that must be drawn with Leeds is potentially the significance of the game. So Leeds also admitted responsibility, admitted committing this on various occasions. But I think it's the significance of the playoff semifinal, which is what's captured the attention of the panel.
David Prutton 3:25
And the speed of the decisions and the speed of the appeal, the certainty, I think that's taken many by surprise. We thought this might drag on and on. But actually, when you look at the Wembley kind of booking system and they've got things going on every weekend in the few weekends afterwards, they had to come to this decision very quickly.
Tom Murray 3:43
Does that mean it's the right decision or it's a quick decision? Well, I think whenever you're operating at speed, there's a potential that certain arguments are not going to be successfully run.

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