Voters say the American Dream is dead. Why?

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What is the focus of the NPR Politics Podcast episode on Michigan swing voters?

Ira Glass 0:00
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Tamara Keith 0:24
Michigan, it's one of the swingiest states in the country, and how its Senate race goes may dictate how both Democrats and Republicans plan for twenty twenty eight. It's time to hear from some swing voters there, so let's see what's on their minds. It's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Tamar Keith, I cover politics. I'm
Sam Gringlas 0:45
Sam Greenglass, I cover Congress.
Mara Liason 0:47
And I'm Mara Lyason, senior national political correspondent.
Tamara Keith 0:50
And Mara, every month you sit in on a focus group. Tell us about this focus group and and what you are looking to learn from these voters.
Mara Liason 1:00
We do a swing voter focus group every month in a different battleground state. This month was Michigan. And swing voters are defined by us as people who voted for Joe Biden in twenty twenty and Donald Trump in twenty twenty four. We do this focus group with Engage and Nelson Recruiting. Uh and just a disclaimer, focus groups are not polls. They don't tell us what voters are feeling because they're too small a sample size. We know what voters are feeling from polls, but focus groups let us delve deep into the why they are feeling that.
Tamara Keith 1:34
Okay. So I want to start with economics. These voters were asked about how they're feeling about the current state of the economy. What did they tell you?
Mara Liason 1:42
They're feeling bad, they're feeling sour, they're feeling that everything they have to buy costs more than it used to and they're struggling to hold on to a middle class life. They also live in Michigan and they draw a direct line between Trump's tariffs and the higher prices they're paying. And here are three of our focus group voters, Barbara, Jean and Jess. We only use their first names because that's the terms under which they agreed to be in this focus group.
Unknown 2:06
I just go into the stores and I looked at my shampoo and I said, okay, this is gonna go up 50%. You know, I mean 'cause my shampoo is made in Canada. Michigan has the auto industry. I think that the tariffs for that. uh is very hurtful for the state. Well if I buy a car that's made in Canada, then uh it will affect me because the uh tariffs are now fifty percent.
Mara Liason 2:31
So there you have it. These are voters, Michigan voters. Canada is a huge market for them and they understand that tariffs are a tax on imports.
Tamara Keith 2:41
And it is this interesting thing whether voters are going to draw a direct line between a policy the president announces and their actual lives, but Sam, it sounds like voters are drawing that line.
Sam Gringlas 2:54
Yeah, I mean tariffs can be this thing that feel really intangible for a lot of people, but in Michigan, because of these super close ties with Canada, people are directly making that connection. I found some interesting polling from the Detroit News, which found that sixty-four percent of Michigan voters opposed the Canada tariffs, sixty one percent said they are bad for Michigan's economy, and seventy-two percent said that they would increase the cost that people pay for goods. So that is people making a really direct connection between this policy in Washington and what's happening in their wallets. And part of the reason this is so prescient in Michigan is because all these industries like the auto industry, for example, often parts are going back and forth across the border.
Sam Gringlas 3:35
And so these companies are seeing this hit really immediately.
Tamara Keith 3:40
Yeah, and of course Michigan also has a Senate race that we are watching very closely. Do you have any sense of how this might affect the Senate race?
Sam Gringlas 3:51
So interestingly, we've seen the Republican nominee for Senate, former Congressman Mike Rogers, supporting Trump's tariffs. He said, uh, President Trump is right to put America first and tariffs are necessary but are not a one-size-fits-all solution.

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